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    Quote Originally Posted by Onolock View Post
    I didn't say any of those things were necessarily bad, but they bring nothing new to the recipe in those areas. That's the problem though, essentials to the MMO genre; a game that will be successful long term will innovate and break away from this design. WoW at least brings innovations somewhat, but even WoW is still latched on to this design.
    That just sounds to much like someone asking for an FPS to break new grounds, or for Madden football to release somethings that's not a clone of itself.

    Each game does bring a small uniqueness into effect. Sometimes these changes are viewed as not enough, other times people will claim that they have gone to far.

    I stand by the fact that the MMO community has no idea what they actually want out of a game. This was made even stronger after GW2 (Everyone believed the Holy Trinity was the worst thing ever until then), and it has the potential to be right again with EQNext. The more different you make things, the more the players will view the changes as just a gimmick and get turned off once they see through it.

    Innovation is a myth, it's a disguise for rehashing what already exists in hopes that the players won't realize it.
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    Last edited by Codek; 10-26-2013 at 04:42 AM.
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    Damn OP, you made me spit out my coffee!
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    Always remember the Silver Rule:
    "Treat others as they treat you!" ...or something like that.

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    Vanroe if they are going to make an mmo like every other one on the market they have to release it with enough content that will last to the next content update. You can't make a game with little content and on top of that make the content easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jre418 View Post
    Vanroe if they are going to make an mmo like every other one on the market they have to release it with enough content that will last to the next content update. You can't make a game with little content and on top of that make the content easy.
    Its not possible to make that much content that will last without time gating, either by making leveling very long, or gearing up very long. The content can be very easy, but it just has to take a long time, but then again people will leave because it takes to long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanroe View Post
    Its not possible to make that much content that will last without time gating, either by making leveling very long, or gearing up very long. The content can be very easy, but it just has to take a long time, but then again people will leave because it takes to long.
    This is the problem today, people think that the game should be released with 2 years worth of content. alas people will still blow through it in 2 months. Every launching mmo has little content and the only way to stretch it is by time sinking it. SE chose not to give us a timesink.. be thankfull.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jre418 View Post
    Vanroe if they are going to make an mmo like every other one on the market they have to release it with enough content that will last to the next content update. You can't make a game with little content and on top of that make the content easy.
    So turn 4 and turn 5 in coil easy? even tho a lot more players winning at turn 4 by all means it's not a easy turn to do. For legacy players this game is boring and for the players who just join at release more and more of them starting to get to the point of doing coil1-4 then cap myth and make gil. The thing is they can level up other jobs or craft or do other stuff. Even as a legacy player there lot's of things for me to do i just to lazy to do it. So most players who like me come on here saying there noting to do. There is a lot to do it's just noting you want or think it's fun.

    Also new players joining every day which mean even when players leave there more joining. Top of that people who quit pay 90days or more of subs. So even if there not playing they still pretty much are they just not doing anything in game lol./
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jre418 View Post
    The game started off good but it just took a nose dive into the boring,easy and dull zone. From what I am reading on forums and when I last played the game it seems FF14 is starting to die. Square might say they have a ton of subs but alot of the player base is just not playing there accounts and waiting for there subs to end. Its bound to happen when you make a game that plays exactly like every other mmo on the market.
    For a "dying" game, it sure is crowded...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conradus View Post
    For a "dying" game, it sure is crowded...
    It's not really crowded, some zone's there are fewer players doing fates few shouts. The fact is the game is losing subs even if you wish to not admit it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxthunder View Post
    It's not really crowded, some zone's there are fewer players doing fates few shouts. The fact is the game is losing subs even if you wish to not admit it.

    show us your proof other than a few people in forums put up or you know the rest.

    i guess you left out the fact people have

    jobs
    school
    family

    and gaming is not always a 24 hour a day thing.
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    F'whalon Yhisa
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    Stats until you have them all you have is impressions. That goes for both sides. Based off the time you play in the zone your in you feel there are less people could be true or not until SE comes out with numbers we shall never know.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maxthunder View Post
    It's not really crowded, some zone's there are fewer players doing fates few shouts. The fact is the game is losing subs even if you wish to not admit it.
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