You basically want to join a fate AFTER it's done and still get gold. Why are you surprised about the responses you get?

And yes, it's exactly the same as showing up at a mob/boss fate after all the mobs have been killed and expecting to have another 2-3 mins to kill mobs so that you can get gold too. 1 minute is more than enough to hand in stuff, IF you actually participated in the fate. Showing up after it's done and going "but I want gold too!" is not how it works.