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  1. #41
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    ExiaQuanta's Avatar
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    Reimi Namikaze
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    Leviathan
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    Archer Lv 80
    They need to allow "Join in Progress" On Primals because of stuff like this. If one person leaves, than you cant replace them. Thus a full disband. As a DPS main it sucks because it takes 40mins to Que in DF only to have 1 person leave after 7mins. Than you gotta leave the fight and reque for another 40mins
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  2. #42
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    JPPILIP's Avatar
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    Roric Slaven
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    Goblin
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    ``Garuda HM where both tanks and the other healer were completely new to the fight and didn't want to watch any videos or look up strategies.``

    This is the attitude I hate most in the game. I have made it all the way to titan hm without watching a single video or looking up a single strategy. Usually for good players after a wipe or two they tend to figure it out or ask for help. Nothing in this game is overly complicated. As far as videos go if I wanted someone to tell me everything about the game why even play when I can YouTube the whole story.
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  3. #43
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    Vanguard319's Avatar
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    I've returned! First I find pants, then Louisoix dies for sending me to the void.
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    Uni Neko
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    Hyperion
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    Archer Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by Asriah View Post
    If you want a perfect party go to revenant's toll and form one yourself. Stop wasting our time.
    I didn't realize parrots played this game.

    Where in my post did I ever say I was expecting a perfect party? The issue is about the players who ragequit without giving any real effort. Their attitude is that they are entitled to flawless fast runs when they use the DF to find a group. Ironically, thanks to the way the duty finder works, their "ideal party" is not likely to be formed. As I stated before, they quit when things get rough, and don't even try to work out the issues. then everyone is stuck looking for another party. Ragequit within 10~15 minutes followed by 30 minutes to an hour searching for a new group is hardly efficient, so yeah, ragequitters just waste everyone's time.
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  4. #44
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    Vanguard319's Avatar
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    Uni Neko
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    Hyperion
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    Archer Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by Constance View Post
    Wow tc, I'm so sorry, I don't know what to say... You failed 12 times?
    yeah, the sad thing is I've beaten it with less than ideal party setups. Those parties however were willing to commit and stay the course, and not bail at the first sign of trouble.
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  5. #45
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    Makeda's Avatar
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    Makeda Fyah
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    Ultros
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by joshdavis271 View Post
    I try not to quit, but sometimes you have to when the party is going nowhere and unwilling to work as a team or follow instructions. very rarely do I leave a dungeon.
    I've been in many groups where it takes some people faceplanting several times until everyone gels and then the rest goes smoothly. Even if its me getting faceplanted because heals weren't coming in, or (and it happens because I'm not as amazing as some of you) I goof up... I just rez, run back, and go again.

    The higher I get in levels, the more I notice people often at the start of a dungeon are just not ready for what challenges await. But very often without anyone leaving, by the end we're working a smooth machine through the process.

    I guess I have higher wipe tolerance than some of you tanks... I've been at it since the days of classic WoW... and "back in my day" we'd wipe 60 times, uphill both ways, just getting to the boss. And LIKE it. Its how we learned stuff. Its how we broke in new members. Nobody'd cast blame, nobody'd rage. We just accepted that a wipe was a part of the process.

    Nobody ever expected to get to level 99 of Pacman on their first quarter...

    So I don't get you young whipper-snappers now with all your ragequits.
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    Last edited by Makeda; 10-26-2013 at 07:13 AM.
    Striving for perfection is the path to one's downfall. 'Tis the paradox of the immaculate carrot. | Jah Bless. One God, One Aim, and One Destiny - Marcus Garvey.
    Until the philosophy which holds one race superior and another inferior is finally and permanently discredited and abandoned, everywhere is war - Ras Tafari.

  6. #46
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    ReviiLagoon's Avatar
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    Revii Lagoon
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 62
    I went on a titan run last night in DF with 2 friends to get one of them his relic. When we went in we said "Let's look at all the darklight!" No one had any.....Titan, and no one had any darklight gear except myself, and my other friend who was the tank. Most people were in AF or iLvl 60 gear, or worse. We said we would give them one attempt, and guess what, that one attempt we 1 shot titan. In a group which everyone but 2 people were under geared, we 1 shot titan, in Duty Finder, which is a 7 man run because the 2nd tank is useless. I'm still in disbelief that this could happen.

    http://i.imgur.com/m9Yj9nZ.jpg
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  7. #47
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    Vanguard319's Avatar
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    Uni Neko
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    Hyperion
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    Archer Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by mythicrose View Post
    You're expecting too much of a DF group if you think there's no reason to be dying even on garuda. There are still plenty of people new or inexperienced to the fight be it a tank, healer, or dps. No need to waste other people's time just because you can't handle a wipe if an inexperienced tank happens to show up.
    Agreed, that's not even considering deaths that aren't even the person's fault. The last time I got killed by Garuda, it was due to my video driver crashing during her first phase. In the 5 seconds it took to reboot, she had teleported and I had no time to evade a one-shot kill. Other people have failed due to their wireless peripheral's battery dying at a bad time. Murphy's law is absolute, and no one is above it.
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  8. #48
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    Akira Ono
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard319 View Post
    Agreed, that's not even considering deaths that aren't even the person's fault. The last time I got killed by Garuda, it was due to my video driver crashing during her first phase. In the 5 seconds it took to reboot, she had teleported and I had no time to evade a one-shot kill. Other people have failed due to their wireless peripheral's battery dying at a bad time. Murphy's law is absolute, and no one is above it.
    The video driver crash used to happen to me, too. I just updated the drivers for it and poof, hasn't happened once since.
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  9. #49
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    Zumi's Avatar
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 100
    A lot of people will leave because they see it as the group has very little chance to win so its faster for them to take the 15 min cooldown and queue up with a new group then wipe with a group they think they won't win. There are stuff in DF that pretty much make it impossible to win. I finished 9/9 relic weapons and I seen some pretty horrible stuff on Titan HM, such as dps using all 20-30 gear, and a lv 40 weapon, stuff like this prevents you from mathematically winning the fight.
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  10. #50
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    Vanguard319's Avatar
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    Uni Neko
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    Hyperion
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    Archer Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by Noahlimits View Post
    The video driver crash used to happen to me, too. I just updated the drivers for it and poof, hasn't happened once since.
    Mine are up to date as well, I think it has to do with a hardware issue I've had since April. My GPU had to be completely replaced, and while the new card is the same make and model, it has never fully worked right. I've taken it into a tech, but they can't find anything wrong.
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