To the MONKeys out there... no real discussion..but explain your tricks/tactics.

[Zigkid3]

Interestingly I tested out a rotation including DoTs versus a non DoT rotation, I was quite surprised by the results.
I expected the DoT rotation to do higher dps than the non DoT rotation. Even with keeping a 100% uptime on dots, and not clipping them (reapplying as it reaches 0 only), I found that both rotations had relatively similar dps with slight variations. The DoT rotation did do very slightly more but barely.

I'll probably do more practice on the dummy, I was quite surprised.

DoT rotation:
DK (no debuff bonus yet)>twin>demo>frac>ToD
DK (with debuff bonus now)>twin>snap
BS>impulse drive 2x>twin>demo>frac
DK>twin>snap>ToD
BS>impulse drive 2x>twin>demo>frac
DK>twin>snap
BS> impulse drive 2x> twin>demo>frac>ToD
DK>twin>snap
repeat

basically reapply DoTs when needed.

Non DoT rotation:
DK (no debuff bonus yet)>twin>snap
DK>twin>snap
BS>impulse drive 2x>twin>snap
DK>twin>snap
BS>impulse drive 2x>twin>snap
DK>twin>snap
repeat

Obviously, using dps cooldowns weaved in between both rotations.

When I get back home I'm going to see if i can maybe weave in more impulse drives between the times i do DK and twin snakes if possible.
Also going to test what happens when I start by doing ToD first and perfect balance to build GL3 right off the bat to see how much difference it could make in dps. I've been noticing people do this to build GL3 right away which makes sense, so I'll test a new rotation with this in mind later today.


On a side note:
I'm wearing head, chest, gloves, 2 rings, bracelet, earrings for darklight. I'm also wearing belt, pants, shoes, neck as green drops from AK. no allagan/myth pieces yet. with that as my gear I used to be using the grand company weapon and had no blood for blood yet and i was doing a measly 150 dps. Now i finally have relic+1 and blood for blood, and then my dps shot up to 230 dps, a 50% increased just by upgrading my weapon and unlocking a cooldown. Hopefully later this week I'll get two more darklight pieces. I'm not sure if this is good for my gear level or not, i'm hoping with full darklight and a couple allagan/myth pieces I'll be over 300, not sure how much it'll scale though.

[Foguelo]

Interestingly I tested out a rotation including DoTs versus a non DoT rotation, I was quite surprised by the results.

I've heard similar statements across the forums. However, I'm always worried about "how" this was tested. I'm still unconvinced that the parsers that are currently out there accurately measure dots as well as dps in general. That's my only concern.

[Zigkid3]

I've heard similar statements across the forums. However, I'm always worried about "how" this was tested. I'm still unconvinced that the parsers that are currently out there accurately measure dots as well as dps in general. That's my only concern.

So I've heard. I've been hearing that the dps parser doesn't measure DoTs accurately. and that it's inaccurate when measuring the dps of other party members.

On topic: Another tip/trick, in dungeons on trash I like to pop internal release+blood for blood+perfect balance then spam rock breaker and when you can't any more end with a howling fist. if 3+ things are still alive then do 1-2-rockbreaker. so much trash dps and it's fun to play the "how much aggro can i steal from the tank" game

[AccountBanned]

I've heard similar statements across the forums. However, I'm always worried about "how" this was tested. I'm still unconvinced that the parsers that are currently out there accurately measure dots as well as dps in general. That's my only concern.

I think they're very accurate. We were in a Titan group with someone who used one and afterwards they posted the results of the fight where I did 44000000 damage total...so obviously very accurate because I know for a fact that it feels like I'm doing 44 million damage when >I< play.

[Almalexia]

I'm still unconvinced that the parsers that are currently out there accurately measure dots as well as dps in general. That's my only concern.

It doesn't make mathematical sense for a DoT rotation to do less damage than or similar damage to a non-DoT rotation, especially in a controlled environment against a target that cannot die.

As much as it pains me to do it, I've sworn off parsers until there's an in-app option or an (admittedly against TOS) memory-reading parser. The only thing you can reliably measure on parsers in terms of DoTs is how many rather than how much, but that won't tell you anything useful.

I think they're very accurate. We were in a Titan group with someone who used one and afterwards they posted the results of the fight where I did 44000000 damage total...so obviously very accurate because I know for a fact that it feels like I'm doing 44 million damage when >I< play.

The worst part is there are so many clowns who swear by parsers that I actually took this seriously for a moment.