To the MONKeys out there... no real discussion..but explain your tricks/tactics.

[AccountBanned]

To the Monks: I'm curious about some of the tactics and/or rotations you're using as I think we'll find that all of us do things a little different. Lets not get too deep into discussion and criticism of others here...lets just post what WE are doing and and short reasoning if you feel the need. I'm also curious who favors which fist(s) and if you like to change during different fights.

I prefer Fists of Fire. I tested damage between fire/wind and surprisingly the damage difference in a real fight was unnoticeable.

I've seen some people who don't go from rear to flank when attacking. I personally do my rear attacks and then transition to flank before finally doing my damage over time abilities (demolish, touch of death, fracture) with internal release and greased lightning 3 up. Working on blood 4 blood currently.

I usually save Mantra until things look to be going sour for party/tank. I don't use it all the time. I generally burn instant damage abilities after their cooldown unless a fight requires me to hold them for certain moments (like burning adds quickly).
Also, I've utilized our silence ability to some success in coil turn 2 by spamming it when in opo opo form in order to keep nodes silenced longer and keep them from using high voltage when they'd normally be able to...

[Zigkid3]

fists of fire for damage obviously. sometimes if the fight or phase of a fight requires it i'll switch to earth/wind for a short amount of time until w/e it was is over and then switch back to fire. just need to get used to stance swapping depending on the situation.

Trash mobs I'll spread DoTs or maybe even use rockbreaker if 3+ enemies to not apply too much aggro on one thing to help the tank, and also to increase my overall dps to make the dungeon go faster.

normal rotation on a boss:
DK>twin>snap/demo

at the very start however ill do a bootshine from behind instead of DK because DK doesn't apply the debuff for the first rotation since you're neutral and no opo-opo yet.
keep demo, fracture, touch of death, twin snakes, dragon kick, GL3 up. since dots dont require positioning i dont worry about the position for those. 95% of the time i'm at the flank, the only abilities requiring being behind is bootshine, and true strike. you won't be using those cause youll be too busy reapplying DK and twin snakes instead which are from the flank, and snap punch is the flank. only time i go behind is for a bootshine at the start or a bootshine when restarting the rotation after my stances dropped due to a boss mechanic.

remember to shoulder tackle when you need it.
remember to steel peak when it can be helpful.
remember mantra has a small radius, i normally use it when people are close together and i know we'll be taking a bit of damage soon, like when garuda HM summons the sisters.
remember to use second wind, foresight, the dodge ability i forget the name when you might be taking a bit of damage to make it easier on the healers and for the group.

[Chokee]

at the very start however ill do a bootshine from behind instead of DK because DK doesn't apply the debuff for the first rotation since you're neutral and no opo-opo yet.

i think you should do DK first instead. bootshine 100% crit is opo-opo bonus. you're no in opo-opo yet, so its just 130 potency. but doing DK on flank does 150 potency even if you're not in opo-opo.

[mr_wazzabi]

i think you should do DK first instead. bootshine 100% crit is opo-opo bonus. you're no in opo-opo yet, so its just 130 potency. but doing DK on flank does 150 potency even if you're not in opo-opo.

That's what i do. My rotation--> tod, dk, ts, dm, frac, dk, trst, impulse drive, sp, bs.....

There are many times that your rotation would have to change, like when a mob is close to dying, using a dot is a waste so i would go full burst dmg

I launch steel peek and howling fist in between gcd and mercy stroke when the mob or boss is almost dead. For bosses i use the lb, followed by mercy stroke for extra dmg.

[Zigkid3]

i think you should do DK first instead. bootshine 100% crit is opo-opo bonus. you're no in opo-opo yet, so its just 130 potency. but doing DK on flank does 150 potency even if you're not in opo-opo.

You're right, I double checked and the crit bonus also requires opo-opo >.<

Now I've been doing this for rotation:
DK (no bonus)>twin>demo>frac>ToD
DK (w/ bonus)>twin>snap
BS>twin>demo>frac
DK>twin>snap>refresh frac/tod when needed
BS>twin>demo>refresh frac/tod when needed
DK>twin>snap>refresh frac/tod when needed
BS>twin>demo>frac
....


once i get more gear with skill speed reduction i may be able to fit in 2x impulse drive.

[Naalya-Deix]

If you are <= 2.10 GCD (which should be obvious with only a little of SS, you are missing a bit DPS not using True Strike (and you move for nothing from rear to flank also). Notice that 0.10 sec is not even to bother you ! And yet, you need 373 to 490 SS to gain only 0.10 sec on your final GCD.

[Size]

If you are <= 2.10 GCD (which should be obvious with only a little of SS, you are missing a bit DPS not using True Strike (and you move for nothing from rear to flank also). Notice that 0.10 sec is not even to bother you ! And yet, you need 373 to 490 SS to gain only 0.10 sec on your final GCD.

Yes I don't think I have that high of Skill speed yet. But will look to read True Strike when I do.

[Almalexia]

Is this a random advice thread?

- Steel Peak will synchronize with the slime pops in the fight against Caduceus if you stun slimes as soon as they appear.
- If you see a DoT icon lingering on an enemy's status bar without a counter on it, do not attempt to reapply the DoT. Wait for the icon to disappear before reapplying.
- You can't advance forms against an enemy with Stoneskin, nor will you gain/apply any form-dependent effects through WS.
- That said, when facing a mob with Stoneskin, spam Bootshine in Opo, True Strike in Raptor, or Snap Punch in Coeurl until the SS is gone.
- While in Perfect Balance, you will not advance through MNK forms, but you will gain/apply any form-dependent effect associated with each WS.
- Mantra has a really crappy radius.

[Pae]

Ive been trying a new rotation lately, shame there is no 100% accurate to way to check dps though :/

After stacking up GL and adding DOTs

1. Flank: DK-TS-SP
2. Back: BS-Impulse drive x2
3. Flank: TS-SP-DK
4. Back: Impulse drive x2
etc.
Fit in DOTs whenever they run out. IMO lancers impusle drive is better than our own True strike. And I can fit two in.
Its a strange rotation to get used to at first but easy once you get used to it. Only thing Im not sure of is if it really is more DPS, maybe someone else has tried it out and can give their input.

[AccountBanned]

Is this a random advice thread?

- Steel Peak will synchronize with the slime pops in the fight against Caduceus if you stun slimes as soon as they appear.

Yeah a random advice for monks and a "tell us what things you do". I also utilize the stun effect on slimes and bust all my cooldowns on them before dragging so that the healers don't have to worry about me and can focus on the tanks in that fight. Bards seem to be decent at slime duty but sometimes die. Monk power.