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  1. #101
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    Zanika's Avatar
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    Zanika Voidessia
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez View Post
    Taking a typical Amdapor Keep or Wanderer's Palace where you fight 1 pull at a time, Scholar can more or less keep Cleric up full time.
    I should think so, since, by then, they have a summon that can pick up the slack. A SCH has a much larger dps window than a WHM.
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  2. #102
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    Tanaya Makers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanika View Post
    One second more shouldn't make that big a difference. And if it does, then perhaps Stance danceing isn't the answer.
    This is cute.

    I won't knock on your playstyle, even if I don't agree with it. But trying to correlate Stoneskin's efficiency with Cleric's Stance is pretty silly.
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  3. #103
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    Parry Lyndon
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    Nooooo Tanaya don't do iiiiiiitttttt!!!!
    Ah, you did it... Now every single CNJ/WHM/SCH will think they can DPS all they want when they want...
    What you say is completely right, it makes sense, but remember that there are people doing heal jobs after dps jobs!
    Today I was in Haukke as THM, with a CNJ that was dpsing everything he saw, because he was a lv50 BLM and didn't accept the change I guess...
    We died twice per fight, every trash mobs killed us more than once, and as I, lv50 WHM, tried to give him advice, he started insulting and saying "let me do my job"...
    I know you are telling us your opinion, but you risk to ruin the game like this TT___TT
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  4. #104
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    Seravi Edalborez
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    Quote Originally Posted by YanDere View Post
    I know you are telling us your opinion, but you risk to ruin the game like this TT___TT
    That's the fault of people who can't read, adapt, or think. Not Tanaya.
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  5. #105
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    Maple Flavor
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    I agree that not every whm or sch can dps

    But if I see a sch or a whm standing around doing nothing in example ak when tank is full, I get pissed
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  6. #106
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    Krisstina Silverymoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whippet View Post
    I agree that not every whm or sch can dps

    But if I see a sch or a whm standing around doing nothing in example ak when tank is full, I get pissed
    They r controlling the pet...u just dont know it~
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  7. #107
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    Seravi Edalborez
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krisstina View Post
    They r controlling the pet...u just dont know it~
    Assuming you're serious, you can (and should) control pet while casting so there's no reason to have to do one or the other. You do both.

    It's gotten to the point where I make my fairy dodge with me on Demon Wall with Place. Just because.
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  8. #108
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    Zanika Voidessia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanaya View Post
    I won't knock on your playstyle, even if I don't agree with it. But trying to correlate Stoneskin's efficiency with Cleric's Stance is pretty silly.
    I wasn't thinking about efficiency when I said that. I'm talking about timers. There's no way you can tell me toggleing Cleric Stance, before casting a spell, is faster than casting Stoneskin (not after saying there's a hidden timer). That's all I saying.
    Quote Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez View Post
    That's the fault of people who can't read, adapt, or think. Not Tanaya.
    And the people who apparently can read, adapt, and think, are now 11 pages deep in this standstill thread. Let's face it, we're getting nowhere with this.
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    Last edited by Zanika; 10-29-2013 at 12:55 PM.

  9. #109
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    People who are ready to step up their game will take this advice under advisement or are already doing it. People who are not ready should know they are not ready, due to lack of experience or actual results causing performance issues. Acting like the issue has to come to a consensus when it is in fact just a "are you ready for this or not" check is pretty silly.
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  10. #110
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    Varok Kreldan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanika View Post
    One second more shouldn't make that big a difference. And if it does, then perhaps Stance danceing isn't the answer.
    Right.. only a 1 second difference per cast, not big at all...

    Stoneskin is very inefficient to use mid fight unless youre healing a warrior with a lot of HP and even then there is better ways to do it. At my gear level a stoneskin is about as effective as a Cure 1 on any tank with around 5300 hp(less than that Cure 1 is better) and that costs half the mp and is a second quicker to cast. Of course there are some moments where a stoneskin mid fight can be very helpful, like mountain buster, but for a dungeon trash pull? No..

    You're better off just casting a Regen, if your tank has some gear this can be enough to keep him alive on 1-2 mob pulls which gives you a lot of time to help dps. If I'm playing with a geared tank that knows what he's doing ill just throw on a Divine Seal + regen combo after hes got aggro and I can dps for the whole trash pull, every pull... Its just so much more effective than stoneskin..

    Seriously more WHM need to use Divine seal like.. all the time. Its got a huge uptime with such a low cooldown.
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    Last edited by Varok899; 10-29-2013 at 01:26 PM.

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