Converting from a WHM to SCH

[Hitaru]

Hi All, just want to get some advice converting or smoothing out my healing skill as a SCH from a WHM main.
Having healed Titan on both class, I felt really weak during post heart tumult on SCH ( WHM is on top in AoE healing, yes, but wasn't expected the difference to will make myself and succor/WD feel useless) , and wasn't any better on topping off tank for MB beside the instant lus(was told can't rely on lus) . Also when I started T1, I had trouble to keep up a WAR when split has 5+ stack on WHM. But the SCH with me (similar gear) had no issue at all. If i was in that SCH's place, I would probably just spam embrace/adlo+ lus when low, and psy when the WAR near top. But I cant wrap my head around the idea that's enough to keep the tank up.

So am I missing something as SCH? I know people keep saying that SCH is proactive healing, but with damage incoming like 4+ stack on T1 split, you have to spam anyway? how is that different than a WHM's cure bomb

TIA for any advice.

[Espon]

Don't be afraid to overheal with a Scholar. Having Succor or Adloquium already up when someone is at full health effectively extends their max HP. Even though Succor might heal for about 300-400, that's another 300-400 prevented. For stomps I can usually have succor already up then get off a couple while Titan pounding the ground, so that's about 900-1200 damage prevented per person. I'll also drop down a Sacred Soil to reduce damage taken further.

Make sure you're manually controlling your fairy for Mountain Buster. You should have no problem topping them up with Physick, Embrace, and maybe a Lustrate. As soon as Landslide goes out, start healing the tank and finish with Adloquium then precast a Physick and Embrace. With this set up, the tank usually just shrugs it off as if MB was just a regular hit.

For Caduceus, you should always be casting spells (and on any fight for that matter). What people mean by proactive is that some of the damage is prevented before it even lands. Caduceus does some really spiky damage which is what ends up killing a tank. By reducing the spike damage, it makes it less likely the tank'll suddenly fall over dead from 60% health because of a bad melee hit + hood swing combo.

[Carmentisis]

I have both SCH and WHM so understand some of the thoughts you are having.

Espon is correct with the constant use of Adloquium as that stacked with Stoneskin can prevent a lot of damage.

The thing I love about SCH is that the job doesnt seem to get as much emnity as WHM. In Coil Turn 2 we have the SCH use Succor a lot as it keeps the back liners healed so the WHM can focus on the Tanks.

As SCH, if possible try to get your DoT rotation out every 20 seconds as the damage really helps the fight to progress faster.

Eye for an eye and Virus is super helpful in Turn 1 Last Boss too.

[Hitaru]

Thx for the replies. Maybe i shouldn't try to do an apple to apple compare here. But I think the way I play WHM really puts a bad taste on my sch. Probably gotta start to pay attention to boss incoming skill more rather than tank's hp bar to crunch more out from my sch, and need to figure out how to better balance adlo and psy spam.

[Gurpsmeister]

You really can't do the apple to apple as you say because they use two different mechanics to do the job. At best you're comparing and apple to an orange. One is reactionary and the other pro-active, one is bullk healing, the other mixes mitigation with smaller heals. Figure out which one you wana do and do it well, easy as that.

[Garnatian]

SCHs aren't really that proactive at all.

[PetiteMalFleur]

I've downed Titan with some amazing scholars. They make Titan mechanics look like nothing. They know how to time virus and keep the whole party up over half health through 8+ stomps.

In coil my group has both a SMN and SCH. They are both amazing additions. The SCH recently leveled a WHM and will ask what I'd prefer her to run. I will always say SCH. The damage mitigating skills of the SMN are also really helpful in rotating virus and E4E cooldowns.

[Garnatian]

I've downed Titan with some amazing scholars. They make Titan mechanics look like nothing. They know how to time virus and keep the whole party up over half health through 8+ stomps.

In coil my group has both a SMN and SCH. They are both amazing additions. The SCH recently leveled a WHM and will ask what I'd prefer her to run. I will always say SCH. The damage mitigating skills of the SMN are also really helpful in rotating virus and E4E cooldowns.

Virus is irrelevant. The WHM misses out on the Magic mitgation from Virus, which is more than made up for by Proshell.

A WHM trumps SCH if it is accompanied by a BRD.

[Snowaeth]

Sch spam is not just 1 heal
It's Adlo, Phys, Adlo, Phys
When tank is full hp use 1 Adlo on him

Fairy can heal the party
When tank taking heavy dmg use Rouse (pet buff) for strong pet heals
Place fairy in a good spot, don't turn her AI off, let her heal the pt while ya focus tank

Virus boss for oh shit mom. maybe throw sacred soil if a lot of aoe
Never use Sacred Soil, but know the few situations when it should/can be used

Use up Aether stacks just before Aetherflow goes off cd
Use em on Lustrate (sometimes energy drain, almost never on sacred soil)

Not sure who told you not to Lustrate, but Lustrate is something you can use almost freely.
The way you gotta use Lustrate, is: keep holding onto it as long as you can only use it early if needed, once your Aetherflow has only 10-20 seconds of cd left use Lustrate whenever for whatever
This way 3 new stacks will be ready soon

[Ghishlain]

As mentioned earlier, SCH is designed to be a proactive healer. Many tools in the SCH toolkit scream "MITIGATION!" such as shields from heals and Sacred Soil. We have tools like Virus will help reduce oncoming damage immediately while Eye for an Eye requires a bit of time to "setup" but the damage reduction is nothing to scoff at either.

For mass healing scenarios, saving Rouse for Eos and popping Whispering Dawn can help keep people going as well as give a nice small boost to your fairy's potency. It's not an immediate heal, but if you're confident the team will dodge the remaining oncoming damage, it'll get them topped off effectively.

Since you have both jobs leveled, I would recommend starting any new fight as WHM to get used to the mechanics since WHM is all about reactive healing. Once your comfortable with how the boss operates, you can make the move to SCH and have a more comfortable understanding of what to expect and know when to use which tools to maximize their benefits to the fight. In some cases, you just need to spam cures, but you can help reduce the frequency this happens by knowing a fight before hand.