benediction

[Tint]

we were in a dungeon, the tank tanks , suddenly a new monster appears. i stop healing, wait for the tank to pull the monster. he did after a loooong time, his life was down, 'cause i didn't heal him, so i used benediction to to recover his life - bad idea xD

i pulled the whole aggro, chaos and then - we all died xD

[Jarlax]

If you cast it on yourself with full health you receive a heal equal to your total hps

So yes it does overheal

[YanDere]

Benediction pulls a lot of hate because it instantly heals the whole MAX HP of the tank.
If the tank has 1000/7500 HP, Benediction won't heal 6500 but 7500 so it ALWAYS overheals.
Use it only in extremely dangerous situations, and if you can use Shroud of Saints after.

[PiedPiper]

That said, its not really that much hate. If you are pulling it was probably from the hoyl damage (hoyl is actually like the second strongest aoe spell in the game after flare). Healing earns threat at a 66% rate of damage, so even on a high vitality pld like me at 6.4k, its only 4224 points of threat. (1-2 full roh combos, so not much). Also I'm pretty sure the overhealed amount doesn't actually earn threat (else whm threat would be even more insane, that or it earns at a reduced rate).

[YanDere]

That said, its not really that much hate. If you are pulling it was probably from the hoyl damage (hoyl is actually like the second strongest aoe spell in the game after flare). Healing earns threat at a 66% rate of damage, so even on a high vitality pld like me at 6.4k, its only 4224 points of threat. (1-2 full roh combos, so not much). Also I'm pretty sure the overhealed amount doesn't actually earn threat (else whm threat would be even more insane, that or it earns at a reduced rate).

Hm, from my experience it's really a lot aggro, but if the tank is doing well his job the healer shouldn't aggro that easily.
But, you know, there are lots of tanks that just tank one enemy, and in that case you surely will pull other mobs.

[Satty]

yesss... it can!
It is a whm's Panic button!
if you ever do a speed run in WP, and have to use benediction.. cause the SCH might be having trouble keeping the tank healed.. you will notice it.. :x

[PiedPiper]

yesss... it can!
It is a whm's Panic button!
if you ever do a speed run in WP, and have to use benediction.. cause the SCH might be having trouble keeping the tank healed.. you will notice it.. :x

I have so many questions about this.....

You speed run WP with a whm AND a sch in the same 4 man party?

SCH having trouble healing a single target? That happens?

SCH in speed runs of WP at all? (I know its doable, but that hoyl to kill adds on bosses 2 and 3 is so nice)

When in a WP speed run would Bene pull hate? On aoe pulls the tank is building tones of aoe threat to beat the dps anyway....


I can't even.

[Danfingo]

Glad to see this thread on here haha. I have been using benediction successfully without pulling hate off my tanks, and suddenly got yelled at the other day. It was a dps of course, but he told me it pulled too much hate and I would get them killed. In the interest of keeping the peace, I didn't argue with him, but afterwards wondered how other whms were making use of our awesome panic button.

In my experience, if you time it right, the mob won't even think about you long enough to realize how good your hair looks.

[Satty]

I have so many questions about this.....

You speed run WP with a whm AND a sch in the same 4 man party?

SCH having trouble healing a single target? That happens?

SCH in speed runs of WP at all? (I know its doable, but that hoyl to kill adds on bosses 2 and 3 is so nice)

When in a WP speed run would Bene pull hate? On aoe pulls the tank is building tones of aoe threat to beat the dps anyway....


I can't even.

yeaaa! it's the best! whm's can put on cleric stance, where they switch mind for intelligence. Tank pulls a crap load of mobs, swiftcast>holy>holy>holy>holy>HOLY bam! and sch would be your main source of heals. we do our runs with pld, whm, sch, and blm. fun times to be had for sure! our last run took us around 13 minutes.
sometimes sch's can have issues.. like.. lag, or they get confused, and whm needs to step in and benediction the tank. it happens.
but basically the WHM turns into your main source of DPS.

Naturally when you are DPSing and you use benediction it pulls attention to you completely, and if you dont have your shroud of saints up, you can pretty much call yourself boned.

Another thing about benediction is say.. for instance, a warrior has 8k HP
They are down to.. 1500, and the mobs are hitting hard!
Benediction heals to FULL HEALTH!!
so you just did one heck of a heal.. That is 6500 hp restored in one heal!

or maybe, your whm catches that the sch is having a hard time with keeping the tank healed, he is down to 500hp and those mobs aren't slowing down!
that would be 7,500 hp healed.. so you would hope to have shroud of saints ready.. and swift cast.. so the way it would go is..
benediction>shroud of saints>swiftcast>holy>holy>holy(however many times it is needed.)
WP is tricky but sooo much fun for a whm, cause they get to do a complete roll reversal.