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  1. #61
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    Sephirah's Avatar
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    Nim Loki
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 60
    I understand it can be frustrating to not get a drop you really want, and I don't intend for this to come off as mean as it's going to, but I just have to laugh anytime I see someone complaining about drop rates not being random enough, you can't make random more random than random already is.

    You could flip a coin 100 times and get tails every time. It's unlikely, but possible. Just like it's possible to kill a boss 30 times in a row and never see him drop that one item you want.

    Even if their loot tables are weighted towards a specific item, it's still 100% random. For arguments sake, if something had a droprate of 33%, that does not mean kill it 100 times and it will drop 33 of them. Or that it will drop 1 out of every 3 kills. You have the exact same chance the first time you kill it, as the 1000th.
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    Last edited by Sephirah; 10-26-2013 at 01:08 PM.

    http://youtu.be/gGJPq1qmtrk - PLD Controller Tanking AK with no UI video

  2. #62
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    DomoNeeko's Avatar
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    Chaika Asobiikuyo
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    another person who doesn't understand RNG and thinks the world is centered around them, pfft
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  3. #63
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    Lisotte's Avatar
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    Character
    Lisotte Poena
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 80
    Let me give you a piece of advice: Stop running Brayflox's Longstep. Even if you like the look of the gear, by the time you actually get all of it you'll have better gear available. Possibly so much better that it would be laughable to use the braflox gear. At some point even if you did get the gear and liked the look of it, it just wouldn't be worth it to continue using it considering better gear options available.
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  4. #64
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    dryxaline's Avatar
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    Lil Boo
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 23
    LOL! Seriously... Thems the breaks. I've not gotten a piece of gear in like my last 20 runs or so... That's just how it goes. You don't just get what you want because you've run it a bunch of times. Nonsense. Sounds like you're unlucky with drops just like myself. lol.
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  5. #65
    Player Shiyo's Avatar
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    Character
    Shiyo Kozuki
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    I did this dungeon for 6 hours straight with a full premade group of all competent players doing it super quickly and never saw the final boss drop infantry body or legs. Got every other piece of the set, but seriously, 6 hours of running the dungeon and nothing but infinite mage/tank loot? It's insane. Coil is the same way, but instead of tank and healer loot you only get DPS loot, and NEVER any tank or healer loot. Pretty much every coil group has the same problem.

    I think they messed up the coding for loot in some dungeons.
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  6. #66
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    Anzil's Avatar
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    R'mohka Tia
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 64
    I farmed that dungeon from 32 to 39. Took me about 40ish runs to collect the Calvary Set. I saw more Infantry pieces than anything.

    It's random.

    EDIT: Or it was random. I did that not too long after release. Totally possible that SE could have broken something in the mean time.
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  7. #67
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    Lollerblades's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Aro Foreal
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    You must have very bad luck, I've ran it a lot on my PLD. Managed to get full infantry before I got the cavalry set, and I'm still missing the head piece.

    It's random, we just have to deal with it.

    If this annoys you wait until HM primal weapon farming.
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  8. #68
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    amnie's Avatar
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    Ava Adore
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    Balmung
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    Botanist Lv 70
    you folks do realise that for as long as there has been loot tables in MMOs that gear does NOT drop with an equal chance, don't you?

    the devs have a lot of control over these things and there's one simple reason why you see gear for a specific class is dropping more often:
    your subconsciousness is supposed to tell you to play that class


    the loot drop rate is the best way to tell which class is seriously underrepresented right now. and surprise surprise that's tanks.

    loot isn't broken. they do it on purpose.
    (I'm not saying it's ACTUALLY working, I'm just saying that's why they do it)
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  9. #69
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    APilgrim's Avatar
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    Noldor Avari
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by amnie View Post
    you folks do realise that for as long as there has been loot tables in MMOs that gear does NOT drop with an equal chance, don't you?

    the devs have a lot of control over these things and there's one simple reason why you see gear for a specific class is dropping more often:
    your subconsciousness is supposed to tell you to play that class


    the loot drop rate is the best way to tell which class is seriously underrepresented right now. and surprise surprise that's tanks.

    loot isn't broken. they do it on purpose.
    (I'm not saying it's ACTUALLY working, I'm just saying that's why they do it)
    I wish what you said were true in this game as I'm leveling a tank right now. However, my experience going for tank (GLD/PLD) drops at Brayflox's resulted in seeing more Battlemage and Infantry drops than Cavalry (roughly as would be statistically expected: ~3:1). By chance, I completed a full Infantry set before I out-leveled the place - but did not complete the desired Cavalry set until it was too late to be useful. In later dungeons I haven't noticed having any better luck for tank/PLD drops that I can tell so far... I really don't think there's any specific job/class bias in the drop rates like you suggest might be going on.
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  10. #70
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    Kikosho's Avatar
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    Shanoa Varhara
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lisotte View Post
    Let me give you a piece of advice: Stop running Brayflox's Longstep. Even if you like the look of the gear, by the time you actually get all of it you'll have better gear available. Possibly so much better that it would be laughable to use the braflox gear. At some point even if you did get the gear and liked the look of it, it just wouldn't be worth it to continue using it considering better gear options available.
    Some people don't care about the stats and want the gear specifically for the look. With the upcoming Vanity slots, stats will be a non-issue.
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