[dev1008] Petition to have Jumping implement

[Jennestia]

Nobody said it was going to be easy

You expect SE to only do the easiest, laziest things. Ha.

4242402 indy MMOs can implement ten times the stuff SE implements.

They're also a copy/paste MMORPG - You'll be lying if you said most F2P MMO aren't basically the same game.

[Nuru]

They're also a copy/paste MMORPG - You'll be lying if you said most F2P MMO aren't basically the same game.

Pretty much, even the concept arts look the same. X_X

[Renshi]

Do you prefer to have content asap with less/no Quality control or to have content in a long time span,increasing Quality?

[Sushirom]

Take the guy hat posted the anti-jump thread. "Let's take a page from WoW" - "omgosh if try add jump people will jump! They'll gang up on us and just jump! They'll mash that jump button until I lag out and dc!"

Then he posts in a circus thread, says how cool it would be if the circus visited different towns. Ok, im going to apply his logic to this. - "Guys let's take a page from WoW, it has the darkmoon faire - if they add this people will go there and just... I don't even know but it will be bad."

Fooooor the record. Final Fantasy XI had a circus troop. The number one conquest nation had a group of npc's that had a little cart wagon. There was a juggler, a fire breather etc. They didn't do much but stand their and loop animation. But it was there.


And about the post on how much it would take them to accomplish a jump.

I imagine something along the lines of...

-The preproduction
I highly doubt a seasoned animation and programming team would just go "Derpderp makem jump".
There would probably be a significant amount of conceptualizing how they want the characters to jump. What reasons do they want the players to be able to jump for. What do they want the animations to look like and what kind of feel do they want from the jump's animation. (Waiting for someone to go "Just make a cool jump")

-The programming
-The scripting for the input
-The scripting to tie it in with other movement. And any other conflicting programming it would have to be roped into. Things like those bugs you're oh so accustomed to by now. Like if you go into active mode and jump and then your client crashes. I'm sure they'd want to preemptively fix that stuff.
-The tie ins for collision walls


-The environment
-Remapping of the collisons
-Checking vertical planes.
-Adding new collisions. To either block players from certain points or allow landing on certain previously unreachable points.

-The Animation
-For all races and genders. (And knowing S.E. wanting to make the animations pretty. Finessing that will probably take quite a bit of time.)
-The lift off
* Active mode AND Passive mode
-The landing
* Active mode AND Passive mode
-If you've noticed...when you turn your character in FF14...hell if you face away from someone. and then lock on to the person behind you. there's a rather elegant turn around step animation. I imagine square would attempt to incorporate something similar. When a character runs and quick turns they actually have a bit of actual animation that makes it look natural. Instead of an awkward rotation into a new direction. So I would figure they would do something to make that quick turn possible upon landing a jump.

-The dynamics for every piece of armor in the game as well as hair, tails. If you hadn't noticed there's dynamics on your character. That's pretty unfortunate. I was tripping balls the first time I played. Sat there for thirty minutes wiggling my character's face in front of my screen just to see the hair move.

-The particle effects used for landing and lift.
(OH~! I didn't even consider this deeply at first~!)
Floor effects for the rivers, the small streams, when it rains, in the dust storms. Any weird stuff that might be in Mhordona that u walk in.

-The sound effects for the jumping and landing
-The possible sound effects they may do for varying armor types.
-Your characters voice. Will they make a grunt or shout when jumping. If so. For every race, every gender and voice type.


I'm going to add more as I think of it.

[Nikita]

Fooooor the record. Final Fantasy XI had a circus troop. The number one conquest nation had a group of npc's that had a little cart wagon. There was a juggler, a fire breather etc. They didn't do much but stand their and loop animation. But it was there.

Foooor the record, previous FFs had a jump feature, automated. We haven't been given the details of the jump feature but people are still freaking out. A lot of people wouldn't even be ok with automated jump.

The honey badger doesn't give a fuck.

[Nuru]

The honey badger doesn't give a shit.

fixed. :P (Lol love his videos by the way. xD)

If a lot of people aren't okay with autmated jump, then where else are they planning to jump? Besides jumping randomly in town.. etc.

That is why most are against free jumping, and most of the people that are against jumping in general would support the automated jump because it locks out the reason why they wouldn't want jump in the first place.

What does free jump have that automated jump doesn't? They'd both serve the same purpose.

[Ceons]

--- Freedom.

[Nikita]

By "alot of people wont even accept automated jump" I mean they want jump in no form whatsoever. Look at the blood lotus thread on jumping.

Edit: oh, and he says fuck and shit both

[Nuru]

--- Freedom.

Yes, freedom. Freedom to do what? Jump anywhere you want?

Many people would consider that bunny hopping. Just so you know.

By "alot of people wont even accept automated jump" I mean they want jump in no form whatsoever. Look at the blood lotus thread on jumping.

Yeah I noticed, but automated jumping seems like the best of both worlds to me.

[Sushirom]

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