Probably why hard core RPG players are sick of current games. THe redundant, retarded, bunny hoppign of players all over the place. It is redundant, cartoonish, and annoying.

It's already redundant in GW 2, which jsut isn't feeling well polished, Rift feels more complete then GW2, at least in current beta form.

FFXI and XIV are about story, community, that feeling you can't get from the other a typical mmo's.

25-50 people on screen hopping aroudn on mounts and jumping around a fountain because they are bored is one thing I am glad isn't in FFXIV.