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  1. #351
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    The only MMO I think that did Jumping right. was DDO.

    It was a skill. If you had no skill in it you couldn't jump at all. Or very far, very high, or very often. People who sacrificed the skills for Jump could though, get into places others could not. IIRC they even had Dungeons where you had to have a designated Jumper who could scale specifically long jump distances.

    I know I had my Sorc set up for it because I used Jump as a dump skill when I maxed all my other skills that I needed up. So I could get ontop of rooftops in the hubs and smile down at people. I even had GM's called on me because people thought I was hacking instead of being ingenuitive with my platformed jumping. The GM's would come see me on the roof then ask me how I got there. I'd jump down and show them the exact pathing I used. If it went out of bounds they'd tell me they would report it. But none of those paths ever got fixed I don't think. Of course this was all like Month 1.

    That all being said. I can see horrible outcomes coming from jumping being in XIV. Simply because of the design of the game so far.
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    I have to thank Square-Enix for the amazing job they have done recreating Final Fantasy XIV from Scratch. Especially the inclusion of Missing Genders which we petitioned for in good faith. This was proof to us players that the Developers are truly Sympathetic to our requests and that being honest and vocal can pay off with the amazing characters we have who are Female Roegadyn, Male Miqote, and Female Highlanders. Thank You SE, Thank You Community Team, Thank You Yoshi-P.

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    Man I wish my Monster Besitary or Goblin footprint posts got this kind of traction.
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  3. #353
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    At this point, I would like jump. Why? Personally, I think the "advanced collision detection" looks a little ridiculous. It looks like you are taking an elevator up the side of the wall. "doop! going up!" You just slide right up and down it. If they added jump, they could add things later like cliffs that you need to jump across, floating platforms you need to hop across (as seen in previous FFs, only manual jumping), heck, I would prefer auto-jump once you reach a ledge or platform over leaving it as it is.

    What does it add? Interesting animations and more flavor to character movement (we all know that a lot of animations are dull as is), opens options for the future of the game, interesting terrain mechanics.

    Hey guys, they are planning on testing out how it would work, how do you know it would be something you would dislike when they haven't given any details?

    Why don't people just wait and see how it turns out? Maybe they will implement it in a way that many people here can enjoy. What ever happened to "I don't care what the reviews say, I'm going to try this game out for myself to see how it goes"? Where is that logic at in this situation?
    I'm personally in agreement with this really. The 'sliding' up and down the hill (Granted the sliding up the hill wouldn't be fixed easily) annoys me a bit, especially the falling. There's no falling at all you just, well, like you put it, you just plopped down. Not even a landing animation.

    I have the same attitude as well, I'm just waiting, right now I don't really care about jump until they fixed the more urgent issues first.

    And Evangela:

    I would really really really love it if you even try to answer this question:

    Why should SE put more priority in jumps ahead of the more important issues that need to be fixed first?

    Why should SE put jump in higher priority than Content? Or market Wards? or Battle fixes?
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    Jumping is not necessary because I have played another game without jump and it worked.

    Also other games have jump but the graphics are bad, so it probably wouldnt work in FFXIV because the graphics are so good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vesperia View Post
    Jumping is not necessary because I have played another game without jump and it worked.

    Also other games have jump but the graphics are bad, so it probably wouldnt work in FFXIV because the graphics are so good.
    Right.

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    Please stop implementing features

    features make this game bad

    the graphics are too good to have too many feautres

    just look at Star Wars:TOR or TERA, they have features but it makes the games bad graphics
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa View Post
    I have played 20 MMORPGs pay and free that allowed free jumping, and guess what people did in every single one of them?

    Bunny hopped (annoying)
    Kangaroo fighting (really annoying)

    and in all 20 of them, jump was not really even needed, there was nothing in any of them that really required jumping, it was just added for no real reason.
    TRUTH. In every game I've seen that has it, people are springing all over the place like frogs. I feel embarrassed for them whenever I see it. I can't stand to look at it very long. It's even worse when it's in combat. Biggest immersion breaker ever. If FFXIV had free jumping I'd probably have to quit. I don't think I'd be able to role-play anymore.
    Being sick at home all the time I need an escape and I like to think of XIV as a place not a game. People springing all over the place kind of kills that for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabiri View Post
    TRUTH. In every game I've seen that has it, people are springing all over the place like frogs. I feel embarrassed for them whenever I see it. I can't stand to look at it very long. It's even worse when it's in combat. Biggest immersion breaker ever. If FFXIV had free jumping I'd probably have to quit. I don't think I'd be able to role-play anymore.
    Being sick at home all the time I need an escape and I like to think of XIV as a place not a game. People springing all over the place kind of kills that for me.
    Then you really need a boring game if it'd make you quit... Jumping is soooo gamebreaking lol people crack me up
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    Then you really need a boring game if it'd make you quit... Jumping is soooo gamebreaking lol people crack me up
    People who think jumping is game-saving and will bring in the masses are funny too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeloo View Post
    People who think jumping is game-saving and will bring in the masses are funny too
    Didn't say it was gamechanging.. Most people want it so they can clear obstacles or the stupid cliffs you can't seem to 'cross' over.
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