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  1. #131
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceons View Post
    His point is a lot of stuff were not planned for and are still happening. Like auto attack and materia system. Just like that it does not matter if they did not plan to implement a feature. They can do it now, along side all the other features they were not planning to add but now they have to cause the game sucked at release
    And thats why he referenced FFXIII?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    for what Eva wants they do have to redesign some stuff
    Evas biggest complaint with jump is that she gets stuck on bushes, or cant jump up and down cliffs

    even if jump is just "added" it doesnt automaticaly let you do this, you would then have to go back and redesign EVERY map to make it so that the invisible walls that prevent people from going through them(up and down cliffs) are not there
    this is pretty much what they have been doing with the collision detection

    but for the ability to only be able to reach stuff with jump(over bushes and up cliffs you cant run up) it would require a redesign of stuff, and eva refuses to understand that
    Alrighty, so my original thoughts of having to redesign everything were right. wtf was i thinking?
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    - maps were not designed for jumping

    - no need to implement at this moment

    - people will jump around like rabbits


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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    - maps were not designed for jumping

    - no need to implement at this moment

    - people will jump around like rabbits


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    you pretty much hit it dead on with those 3 points

    all three of them are 100% FACT, something you refuse to understand

    stop being closed minded

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    for what Eva wants they do have to redesign some stuff
    Evas biggest complaint with jump is that she gets stuck on bushes, or cant jump up and down cliffs

    even if jump is just "added" it doesnt automaticaly let you do this, you would then have to go back and redesign EVERY map to make it so that the invisible walls that prevent people from going through them(up and down cliffs) are not there
    this is pretty much what they have been doing with the collision detection

    but for the ability to only be able to reach stuff with jump(over bushes and up cliffs you cant run up) it would require a redesign of stuff, and eva refuses to understand that
    It's their own fault to designed the maps that way

    2010 MMO should design maps and have include jumping/falling from the beginning
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    says the person who does not want change...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceons View Post
    His point is a lot of stuff were not planned for and are still happening. Like auto attack and materia system. Just like that it does not matter if they did not plan to implement a feature. They can do it now, along side all the other features they were not planning to add but now they have to cause the game sucked at release
    Thank you Ceons for pointing that out . It though my point was quite obvious... i guess I'm just overestimating some people!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    - maps were not designed for jumping

    - no need to implement at this moment
    At least these two are 100%

    I can see #3 being true for the first few weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceons View Post
    says the person who does not want change...
    says the person who didnt read every post i wrote in this thread and thus just proved themselves pretty ignorant on my stance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onidemon View Post
    Thank you Ceons for pointing that out . It though my point was quite obvious... i guess I'm just overestimating some people!
    lol you don't make sense at all. You referenced FFXIII and now both of you are completely ignoring it as if it never happened.

    No, your point was not obvious, there was no point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    you pretty much hit it dead on with those 3 points

    all three of them are 100% FACT, something you refuse to understand

    stop being closed minded
    - maps were not designed for jumping, OMG OMG OMG, how in the world are they planning to add jobs and auto-attack then? I mean like it wasn't even designed for it. What are we going to do!

    I though my point was clear enough already....
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