[dev1008] Petition to have Jumping implement

[Onidemon]

SOlution to jump smamming = make it take stamina!

Excellent constructive argument. Finally someone using their brain.

[Ceons]

I still don't want jump. I see more annoyance than enjoyment coming out of it

oh wait i have an answer for you.

Too bad that the equation jumping = annoyance is your opinion only. Quite obviously a lot of people (and the dev team) disagree.

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[Nuru]

Excellent constructive argument. Finally someone using their brain.

Or make it collision-based, right?

[Abriael]

No, dev agree jump is needed, in fact they suggested it. The only thing that happened now is that they decided the battle and the complete rework of the game was to be done first.

Actually the producer letter not only downgrades jumping to a lower priority, but actually points out that the implementation is, as of now, a big IF.
So no, they don't agree it's needed. Reading is a nice skill to have

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The dev team, I'm afraid, doesn't disagree with the fact that jumping can be an annoyance, as Yoshida clearly stated in one of his posts, while they definitely disagree that jumping equals "awesome", as they downgraded it's priority, and put it's implementation in doubt.
if it was an "awesome" feature for them, they'd implement it asap. Obviously, not so.
They know it's marginal, and the few vocals ones that spam multiple threads on it like jumping could singlehandedly turn this game in an awesome one are completely inconsequential.

[Nuru]

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He didnt say annoyance, he said "too bad jumping = awesome is your opinion only.

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[Onidemon]

Again, i'm sorry, you're not the judge of the validity of an argument. Sorry to burst a bubble

I'm not judging, just using common sense. No bubble bursted don't worry!

because that someone has posted such arguments multiple time, and he doesn't need to repeat them for your sake, especially due to the fact that your opinion on the matter is completely inconsequential to what will be implemented or not in the game. Convincing you or any other random forum poster with very selective reading abilities is of zero importance.

There is no need to repeat those fabled valid arguments against jumping yet you repeated what, 3 times now that there is arguments somewhere instead of telling me what these arguments are and end this debate. Wow...

Oh really? and I lost it because you say so?

I'm just following your logic, you seem to think we shouldn't have jump because you and some other people say so.

Looking at the producer letter looks like we're winning that battle, and that's exactly the reason why you're raging

You talk about selective reading, yet Yoshi-P wrote that it's on low priority for now, which makes sense as the core gameplay mechanics are broken and need fixing asap. And you read what? "Jumping features is abolished" lol....

[Ceons]

Make it a 5 sec cooldown and everytime you spam the cool down increases by 2 seconds until you have jumped 10 times then you can't jump anymore for a whole minute. any other valid arguments besides bunny hopping?

[Aldaine]

Jumping would actually be kind of interesting if they implemented a need for it in dungeon content, or in the world in general. Such as to get to certain areas, or to progress through dungeons you needed to jump over things, or from ledge to ledge or so forth. Makes it a little more interactive.

[Lerris]

Let's go for realistic jumping. You'll make it maybe 2-3 feet off the ground if you're good at it. Unarmored. With an empty backpack. In chainmail, forget it.

[Tezz_Xivectro]

Jump is not NEEDED but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be added.


Highlighted in green can be overcome by different means.
Pros:
Adds another layer of player freedom.
Can add to strategy (dungeons, etc).
Can easily overcome small obstacles in the field.


Cons:
Takes up development time.
Players spamming jump.

At bare minimum the only downside seems to be development time. Not saying it adds a whole lot either, but it certainly wouldn't hurt much.