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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Again, i'm sorry, you're not the judge of the validity of an argument. Sorry to burst a bubble
    I'm not judging, just using common sense. No bubble bursted don't worry!



    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    because that someone has posted such arguments multiple time, and he doesn't need to repeat them for your sake, especially due to the fact that your opinion on the matter is completely inconsequential to what will be implemented or not in the game. Convincing you or any other random forum poster with very selective reading abilities is of zero importance.
    There is no need to repeat those fabled valid arguments against jumping yet you repeated what, 3 times now that there is arguments somewhere instead of telling me what these arguments are and end this debate. Wow...



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    Oh really? and I lost it because you say so?
    I'm just following your logic, you seem to think we shouldn't have jump because you and some other people say so.

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    Looking at the producer letter looks like we're winning that battle, and that's exactly the reason why you're raging
    You talk about selective reading, yet Yoshi-P wrote that it's on low priority for now, which makes sense as the core gameplay mechanics are broken and need fixing asap. And you read what? "Jumping features is abolished" lol....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onidemon View Post
    I'm not judging, just using common sense. No bubble bursted don't worry!
    Unfortunately your common sense is hardly common. As this thread and others clearly shows. Your mistaking your own biased opinions as common sense, which is quite hilarious to see.

    There is no need to repeat those fabled valid arguments against jumping yet you repeated what, 3 times now that there is arguments somewhere instead of telling me what these arguments are and end this debate. Wow...
    it's much faster, and more fun, to see you run in circles and try to bite your tail, while failing to aknowledge the fact that people have posted plenty arguments, and that they're no less valid than yours (actually more, mind you).

    I'm just following your logic, you seem to think we shouldn't have jump because you and some other people say so.
    Nope. We shouldn't have jump because many people evidently dislike it, and what the developers are actually doing right now (removing collision detection on cliffs) makes jumping completely obsolete and useless with this game's level design.

    You talk about selective reading, yet Yoshi-P wrote that it's on low priority for now, which makes sense as the core gameplay mechanics are broken and need fixing asap. And you read what? "Jumping features is abolished" lol....
    No. I read that not only jumping has been downgraded in priority, but it's implementation is also clearly stated as something that's not a given. It's getting further away, and very possibly it won't happen at all. Looks like things look quite bleak for the jumping fans, and quite obviously, looking at your heated posts in which you attack people on a personal level and mistake your own opinion as absolute fact, this is causing you to rage your heart out.

    Oh, just for the record, bolding your posts doesn't make your arguments more solid. Might wat to write like everyone else instead of flying in the face of the most basic notions of netiquette.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Unfortunately your common sense is hardly common. As this thread and others clearly shows. Your mistaking your own biased opinions as common sense, which is quite hilarious to see.



    it's much faster, and more fun, to see you run in circles and try to bite your tail



    Nope. We shouldn't have jump because many people evidently dislike it, and what the developers are actually doing right now (removing collision detection on cliffs) makes jumping completely obsolete and useless with this game's level design.



    No. I read that not only jumping has been downgraded in priority, but it's implementation is also clearly stated as something that's not a given. It's getting further away, and very possibly it won't happen at all. Looks like things look quite bleak for the jumping fans, and quite obviously, looking at your heated posts in which you attack people on a personal level and mistake your own opinion as absolute fact, this is causing you to rage your heart out.

    Oh, just for the record, bolding your posts doesn't make your arguments more solid. Might wat to write like everyone else instead of flying in the face of the most basic notions of netiquette.
    Jumping while it would be a nice addition based on all the arguments given in this thread by myself and all the people for it, would require time and effort from the development team. At this point, the battle system is being reworked, a new job system is added and content is created to make up for the lack of things to do in game.

    From any manager's point of view it's clear where the priorities lay and while a feature is assigned a lower priority, simply because the man power needed for it would help speed up the the work on more important aspects of the game, doesn't mean that this specific features is ruled out. It's simply on pause until everything is back on track.

    From the producer's letter X


    "Examination of the implementation of jumping(moved from Current Tasks as lower priority)
    *Implementation dependent upon risk analysis"

    Risk analysis.

    "Risk analysis techniques work the same irrespective of the industry they're applied to, and the desired results are even quite similar. Just as the petroleum industry might try to predict future utilization of fixed assets, a game developer might attempt to predict future results of a given game situation. In the petroleum industry, data models supply executives with information so they may make cost/benefit decisions regarding the assets. Similarly, a combat model for a game helps a designer predict the outcome and see if adjustments need to be made to races, classes, and groups such that balance is achieved. In both cases, risk analysis techniques decrease uncertainties and allow the maximum potential to be reached."

    Read what you want from the letter, but trust me when i say this is what he means.

    P.S I like bold.... it makes me stand out from the crowd! Or should SE abolish this option as it makes me look illiterate or is it breaking your forum immersion?
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