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  1. #61
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    Onidemon's Avatar
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    Aaran Oni
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    Quote 引用元:Nuru 投稿を閲覧
    Then i assume you are skimming over everyone's posts and only hear what you want to hear. There are valid arguments coming from either side, but its the people that are for jump implementation that are being the obnoxious children.

    All you are saying is that the people that are against it have no valid arguments, and you dont even care to explain why their arguments do not work. No, you are only stating that they are wrong, period, end of story.

    At least be constructive if you are going to stand by your opinion, and stop pointing out how others' opinions are all wrong but yours.
    I don't want jumping! It's annoying me to see you do it! You look like a monkey! You are breaking my immersion! = Children

    Jumping can introduce interesting gameplay mechanics. Jumping can give your character more mobility and freedom. It helps avoid obstacles by jumping over them rather then going around. Future level design can use jumping for some clever and fun gameplay= adults with valid constructive arguments.


    Why are we even arguing about this?
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  2. #62
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    Quote 引用元:Abriael 投稿を閲覧
    probably because this game (thank goodness) is a MMORPG, and not a platformer.

    Super Mario galaxy -> that way.
    Yet 90% of mmorpgs have jumping.... besides.. hmmm... FFXI and FFXIV?
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  3. #63
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    I'm waiting for those valid arguments too against jump as well...
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  4. #64
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    Abriael's Avatar
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    Abriael Rosen
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    Quote 引用元:Onidemon 投稿を閲覧
    Yet 90% of mmorpgs have jumping.... besides.. hmmm... FFXI and FFXIV?
    And? Should we demand starships and aliens because other MMOs have it?

    Quote 引用元:Ceons 投稿を閲覧
    I'm waiting for those valid arguments too against jump as well...
    You can read back on the multiple threads (some of which opened by the same troll that quite obviously thinks that his issues are much more important than anyone else's and deserve multiple places to be discussed, lol) on this topic and find plenty.

    Again, the fact that an argument isn't valid *for you* has absolutely no bearing on it's actual validity. No one is here to convince you, as convincing you, or any other random forum poster, is absolutely inconsequential.
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    2011/05/21 02:13; Abriael が最後に編集

  5. #65
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    Zirnuwil Wyznlorhsyn
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    Quote 引用元:Ceons 投稿を閲覧
    I'm waiting for those valid arguments too against jump as well...
    Game will be just fine without it. No other argument needed = D
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  6. #66
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    Tezz_Xivectro's Avatar
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    Tezz Xivectro
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    The only valid arguments against jumping is that FF14's design does not call for it. Simply, we do not, realistically, NEED it (read: need != want). Another is that it takes up development time when they should be focusing on other things.

    Other than that, i believe it should be added eventually. It seems to do more good than bad in abstract.
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  7. #67
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    Quote 引用元:Onidemon 投稿を閲覧
    [COLOR=darkred][B]I don't want jumping! It's annoying me to see you do it! You look like a monkey! You are breaking my immersion! = Children
    Quote 引用元:Nuru 投稿を閲覧
    Then i assume you are skimming over everyone's posts and only hear what you want to hear.
    At least be constructive if you are going to stand by your opinion, and stop pointing out how others' opinions are all wrong but yours.
    Again, i have to say.

    ...Please, by god. Tell me on a scale of importance, 1-10 how Jumping is important to this game.

    Quote 引用元:Tezz_Xivectro 投稿を閲覧
    The only valid arguments against jumping is that FF14's design does not call for it. Simply, we do not, realistically, NEED it (read: need != want). Another is that it takes up development time when they should be focusing on other things.

    Other than that, i believe it should be added eventually. It seems to do more good than bad in abstract.
    This is how a lot of people feel about this, including me. Though I don't seem to understand why people think we are still against jumping.
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  8. #68
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    Quote 引用元:Leeloo 投稿を閲覧
    Game will be just fine without it. No other argument needed = D
    fine is not good enough, sorry. People want awesome and that includes jump. Valid argument?
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  9. #69
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    Evangela's Avatar
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    this game is not even "fine"...
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  10. #70
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    Tezz Xivectro
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    Quote 引用元:Nuru
    This is how a lot of people feel about this, including me. Though I don't seem to understand why people think we are still against jumping.
    Personally, i don't care if i can jump or not as long as you can't bunny-hop spam. That's one of the biggest complaints for most people (esp. FF11 players). There are ways around jump spamming, so i hope SE takes this into consideration.
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