[dev1008] Petition to have Jumping implement

[Onidemon]

Which can be solved much more conveniently (and in a much less annoying way) by further removing environmental collision detection where it doesn't make sense, giving the ability to climb cliffs and drop down from them.
Which is exactly what they're doing, mind you.

I really wish i could see someone give a valid, intelligent argument against jump other then "it's annoying" or bunnies and wtv.... People for jumping gave more then enough reasons on why we should have it and it all made sense and was well thought out.

So in my book it's people for jumping 1, people against jump 0. Until someone makes a valid argument that is.

[Evangela]

they never have any good reason

their only reason is about their feeling which they don't like it and that's their reason

[Leeloo]

I haven't seen any compelling arguement against jump beside

- 'Jump is totally not FF like!! No FF has ever had jump and thats the reason it should stay that way!' or Cause FF was never innovative and in fact they have released the same exact game over and over again with new graphics, cause it worked and thats the way it was and it was FF!!! ???

- 'I dont want to see everyone jump like bunnies!!!1'
*watch out, once we have the jump ability all will turn to easter bunnies and jump just to irritate YOU. Cause people have nothing better to do like have fun or do things in game etc*
and the best reasons yet...

- 'it breaks my immersion' . . . . lol

Seriously. Let there be jump. Get over your hate of the most successful MMO - WOW and please don't think putting things in the game are stealing it from wow. Some things should standard in the gaming market today. Wow was not the first game with jump, and its definitely not the only one.

Game is fine without jump, hence people wanting it should be making the arguments for it. Not the other way around.

And mostly I see children stomping their feet screaming "Gimme jump!!" Why? "Because I want to jump!!" After that your only arguments are insults to FF & XI players or pulling the WoW persecution card. Like I said previously, retarded & whiny.

[Abriael]

I really wish i could see someone give a valid, intelligent argument against jump other then "it's annoying" or bunnies and wtv.... People for jumping gave more then enough reasons on why we should have it and it all made sense and was well thought out.

Unfortunately for this absolutely silly statement, the fact that an argument isn't valid for you doesn't make it less valid.

Plenty valid, compelling and intelligent arguments have been made against jumping. You not liking them has no bearing at all on their validity.

So in my book it's people for jumping 1, people against jump 0. Until someone makes a valid argument that is.

See, fact is that your book is completely inconsequential. The dev's book is what matters, and quite evidently, given the drop in priority of the implementation of jumping, the very clear possibility that it will never be implemented, and the fact that they're instead tweaking environmental collision detection (as many that are against jumping suggested) as a much more convenient feature, it's people for jumping 0, people against jump 1.

Sorry to burst a bubble. Oh wait... I'm not really THAT sorry, mind you.

[Nuru]

they never have any good reason

their only reason is about their feeling which they don't like it and that's their reason

Then i assume you are skimming over everyone's posts and only hear what you want to hear. There are valid arguments coming from either side, but its the people that are for jump implementation that are being the obnoxious children.

All you are saying is that the people that are against it have no valid arguments, and you dont even care to explain why their arguments do not work. No, you are only stating that they are wrong, period, end of story.

At least be constructive if you are going to stand by your opinion, and stop pointing out how others' opinions are all wrong but yours.

[DeadlySwordz]

i don't really care for jumping if they add it or not. if they add, then i guess cool. we didn't have jumping in FFXI and it didn't bother me at all. FFXI was one of my favorite MMO's if not my only favorite. played for 6+yrs with no jumping.........

where is the dislike/thumbs down button?

[quantumsaint]

I would love to have scalable terrain and platforming elements that use jump. It will probably never happen in this game, though.

[Abriael]

I would love to have scalable terrain and platforming elements that use jump. It will probably never happen in this game, though.

probably because this game (thank goodness) is a MMORPG, and not a platformer.

Super Mario galaxy -> that way.

[Onidemon]

Unfortunately for this absolutely silly statement, the fact that an argument isn't valid for you doesn't make it less valid.

Plenty valid, compelling and intelligent arguments have been made against jumping. You not liking them has no bearing at all on their validity.



See, fact is that your book is completely inconsequential. The dev's book is what matters, and quite evidently, given the drop in priority of the implementation of jumping, the very clear possibility that it will never be implemented, and the fact that they're instead tweaking environmental collision detection (as many that are against jumping suggested) as a much more convenient feature, it's people for jumping 0, people against jump 1.

Sorry to burst a bubble. Oh wait... I'm not really THAT sorry, mind you.

You talk a lot yet i don't see any of those fabled valid arguments, and there i was getting excited i would see one in that wall of text.

The dev put it as a low priority simply because if you have to chose between jumping and the battle system/jobs etc it's quite clear which deserves more attention at the moment.

So I'm still waiting to see those arguments that are supposedly "there" and that will make me say "hmm... yeah that kind of makes sense."

[Nuru]

I would love to have scalable terrain and platforming elements that use jump. It will probably never happen in this game, though.

Unless they redesign all of the current maps to make certain areas only discoverable by jumping..

It really isn't needed. It would end up towards the end of the priority list if they did consider the feature.

The dev put it as a low priority simply because if you have to chose between jumping and the battle system/jobs etc it's quite clear which deserves more attention at the moment.

Not just battle adjustments, but pretty much put Jumping behind the entire game development. Its not a "Holy shit we need to add this ASAP" feature. Not at all.

The only reason jumping would be seen useful are the small ledges that we still cant seem to pass. Well, even with jumping, we still wouldn't be able to pass that "invisible wall."

All they really need to do is get rid of that invisible wall so that people can get passed.