[dev1008] Petition to have Jumping implement

[Sushirom]

Originally Posted by Jynx
Do not involve jumps in fighting, for the love of god I will murder a small orphanage if that happens. Waste your time implementing jumps if you must. But think of the children!

You should think before you type. None of that was funny or useful.

Actually. I don't mind his comment. I don't want to take sides on whether I want, or do not want jump. But if I see some large group of players bunny hoping around a huge HNM in a circle, one of two things may happen. I hang myself with my mouse cord, or I die of suffocation due to extreme laughter. These are things I'm sure others would enjoy, but I don't want to give them that kind of gratification.

[Sushirom]

This thread is a little offensive right now. I'll give my reasons why~

Three groups~

A: The people that adamantly want jump. ASAP
B: The people that don't want jump at all.
C: The people that are simply trying to explain that Square is planning a possible jump of unknown mechanics, but it is of lower priority as compared to battle mechanics and content.

This thread is offensive because GroupA seems to be putting everyone in GroupC with GroupB. This thread is becoming prejudice. Not all of the ones arguing about production times and priority are the ones who want "glowy weapons and Sephiroth fights~". Id say most of GroupC is leaning towards overall content and working game mechanics. I'm almost offended someone would imply that I want glowy weapons. D=

[Nikita]

I wasn't talking about you, I was making a generalization of the people that say things from WoW are bad then suggest other things from WoW.

[Cairdeas]

I wasn't talking about you, I was making a generalization of the people that say things from WoW are bad then suggest other things from WoW.

I would say most of the people who want jumping also want glowy weapons not the other way around.

[Nikita]

I would say most of the people who want jumping also want glowy weapons not the other way around.

Take the guy hat posted the anti-jump thread. "Let's take a page from WoW" - "omgosh if try add jump people will jump! They'll gang up on us and just jump! They'll mash that jump button until I lag out and dc!"

Then he posts in a circus thread, says how cool it would be if the circus visited different towns. Ok, im going to apply his logic to this. - "Guys let's take a page from WoW, it has the darkmoon faire - if they add this people will go there and just... I don't even know but it will be bad."

[Sushirom]

Take the guy hat posted the anti-jump thread. "Let's take a page from WoW" - "omgosh if try add jump people will jump! They'll gang up on us and just jump! They'll mash that jump button until I lag out and dc!"

Then he posts in a circus thread, says how cool it would be if the circus visited different towns. Ok, im going to apply his logic to this. - "Guys let's take a page from WoW, it has the darkmoon faire - if they add this people will go there and just... I don't even know but it will be bad."

Fooooor the record. Final Fantasy XI had a circus troop. The number one conquest nation had a group of npc's that had a little cart wagon. There was a juggler, a fire breather etc. They didn't do much but stand their and loop animation. But it was there.


And about the post on how much it would take them to accomplish a jump.

I imagine something along the lines of...

-The preproduction
I highly doubt a seasoned animation and programming team would just go "Derpderp makem jump".
There would probably be a significant amount of conceptualizing how they want the characters to jump. What reasons do they want the players to be able to jump for. What do they want the animations to look like and what kind of feel do they want from the jump's animation. (Waiting for someone to go "Just make a cool jump")

-The programming
-The scripting for the input
-The scripting to tie it in with other movement. And any other conflicting programming it would have to be roped into. Things like those bugs you're oh so accustomed to by now. Like if you go into active mode and jump and then your client crashes. I'm sure they'd want to preemptively fix that stuff.
-The tie ins for collision walls


-The environment
-Remapping of the collisons
-Checking vertical planes.
-Adding new collisions. To either block players from certain points or allow landing on certain previously unreachable points.

-The Animation
-For all races and genders. (And knowing S.E. wanting to make the animations pretty. Finessing that will probably take quite a bit of time.)
-The lift off
* Active mode AND Passive mode
-The landing
* Active mode AND Passive mode
-If you've noticed...when you turn your character in FF14...hell if you face away from someone. and then lock on to the person behind you. there's a rather elegant turn around step animation. I imagine square would attempt to incorporate something similar. When a character runs and quick turns they actually have a bit of actual animation that makes it look natural. Instead of an awkward rotation into a new direction. So I would figure they would do something to make that quick turn possible upon landing a jump.

-The dynamics for every piece of armor in the game as well as hair, tails. If you hadn't noticed there's dynamics on your character. That's pretty unfortunate. I was tripping balls the first time I played. Sat there for thirty minutes wiggling my character's face in front of my screen just to see the hair move.

-The particle effects used for landing and lift.
(OH~! I didn't even consider this deeply at first~!)
Floor effects for the rivers, the small streams, when it rains, in the dust storms. Any weird stuff that might be in Mhordona that u walk in.

-The sound effects for the jumping and landing
-The possible sound effects they may do for varying armor types.
-Your characters voice. Will they make a grunt or shout when jumping. If so. For every race, every gender and voice type.


I'm going to add more as I think of it.

[Nikita]

Fooooor the record. Final Fantasy XI had a circus troop. The number one conquest nation had a group of npc's that had a little cart wagon. There was a juggler, a fire breather etc. They didn't do much but stand their and loop animation. But it was there.

Foooor the record, previous FFs had a jump feature, automated. We haven't been given the details of the jump feature but people are still freaking out. A lot of people wouldn't even be ok with automated jump.

The honey badger doesn't give a fuck.

[Sushirom]

PLEASE SEE EARLIER POST~

PLEASE SEE EARLIER POST~

[Vesperia]

Nobody said it was going to be easy

You expect SE to only do the easiest, laziest things. Ha.

4242402 indy MMOs can implement ten times the stuff SE implements.

[Jennestia]

Nobody said it was going to be easy

You expect SE to only do the easiest, laziest things. Ha.

4242402 indy MMOs can implement ten times the stuff SE implements.

They're also a copy/paste MMORPG - You'll be lying if you said most F2P MMO aren't basically the same game.