Nerf FATEs, but don't

[Malamasala]

Fates are big because they don't have queues. It is that simple. Most of my Fate parties are usually 7-8 dps and 0-1 healer and 0-1 tanks. You can't convert that to a dungeon group even if it gave instant level 50 on entering.

That is the crucial flaw of any MMO who attempts party role systems. And it is not solved by nerfing fate respawn times or increasing dungeon exp. No you'd need more drastic changes.

Things that either let us be 1 tank, 1 healer, 6 dps in dungeons, or something that lets us play as tank/healer but get exp on a DPS class. When you have made it possible for people to enter dungeons, THEN you may talk about adjusting exp to make sure people want to go where they CAN GO.

[Vindrax]

Fates are big because they don't have queues. It is that simple.

Your rationale is severly flawed. If FATE exp was decreased 75% no one would be doing them. People train FATEs because they are the most efficient means of leveling. If dungeon EXP was tripled and FATE exp halved (I'm not suggesting this), everyone would be doing dungeons. Granted people would be immensely complaining about queue times, but people are only training FATEs because they outclass all other leveling options in terms of speed and difficulty.

[Sinth]

but people are only training FATEs because they outclass all other leveling options in terms of speed and difficulty.

False, open world mob farming in party is faster than FATE xp with the only exception being the FATE chain in Northern Thanalan.

[PsychologyPhD]

False, open world mob farming in party is faster than FATE xp with the only exception being the FATE chain in Northern Thanalan.

hearsay, speculation, conjecture etc!

[kaiserwilson]

False, open world mob farming in party is faster than FATE xp with the only exception being the FATE chain in Northern Thanalan.

He's right here; with a good party/loc setup this is faster than FATE training. However, IMO since it's not instant gratification not many people are willing to do it.