BARD NERF [requesting more details to the devs]

[NZ_Player]

nerf or no nerf, if you have a bard, it should be geared.
if not then level another class and gear that.
first world problems

[Maku]

OP you already said that your BRDs, geared as they are, are not top DPS which means you are using them for the utility of song correct? If not you would be playing the top DPS classes which I am assuming is DRG. The reason so many of us are saying to not worry about it is because will your group honestly cut out that utility when you are already not top DPS? I doubt it so there is really no reason for your worry cause you will still be needed to sing. ^^

[Arkh]

OP you already said that your BRDs, geared as they are, are not top DPS....^^

And another reply from someone who clearly doesnt know what he is talking about... why? :/
You only have ARC at 50... brd is lvl 30... why do you feel that you can comment on this issue? lol
Its not an issue of needed or not, we play to maximize everything. We will not fill the raid whit brd's if the same spot could be taken by better classes.
i personally have every class/job/profession capped at 50. every class whit atleast relic + full DL. I can choose what i want to play, yet i want to know more about this issue.
I could talk about the mechanics of the current endgame and why a nerfed Bard could be a problem, but.. come on you never played endgame.. and your BRD is lvl 30... lol

ok, next please... cant wait now xD

[Maku]

And another reply from someone who clearly doesnt know what he is talking about... why? :/
You only have ARC at 50... brd is lvl 30... why do you feel that you can comment on this issue? lol
Its not an issue of needed or not, we play to maximize everything. We will not fill the raid whit brd's if the same spot could be taken by better classes.
i personally have every class/job/profession capped at 50. every class whit atleast relic + full DL. I can choose what i want to play, yet i want to know more about this issue.
I could talk about the mechanics of the current endgame and why a nerfed Bard could be a problem, but.. come on you never played endgame.. and your BRD is lvl 30... lol

ok, next please... cant wait now xD

Just because someone has never done it doesn't mean that do not know what they are talking about. How could a BRD be replaced if you are using the songs? No other class DPS or not can do that. You can act all high and mighty as you want but you really are just thinking too much. No other class can offer the support BRD does and if your team uses the support BRD has and NEEDS it then how would you replace it? Mage's Ballad is by far the one thing most people use BRDs for (true mine just hit 30 last night but I tend to watch streams while at work (students have been being sent home most days thanks to these typhoons that are currently hitting us so no classes to teach). So just think about that for a second. Remove the BRD remove the Ballad your healers run outa MP. Ok replace bard with another healer to help. You are either going to be overhealing often and probably also lose substantial DPS because he did say a "little". Replace BRD with another DPS you lose Ballad and healers don't have the MP to cure that extra DPS. You replace BRD with another tank, three tanks and still not enough MP to keep them all alive and a drop in DPS.

Everything I just typed is logical EVEN if I have no personally done it yet. I have played MMOs most of my life and can, yes believe it or not, think logical about things I have not personally done yet.

[NothingEternal]

Maybe you should go back to Warcraft. You obviously thirst for the endless rat race.

You're Chicken Little. Zomg the sky is falling! We are farming turn 4 so it's time to overreact to maximization with supposed changes that haven't even happened yet endgame endgame omgomg.

Most people play games to, you know, have fun. There aren't world firsts in FF14. No one cares. Get some new friends since obviously the people you play with have warped your MMO mentality to this deranged state. You sure aren't impressing anyone here.

This is nothing but a disguised brag thread. Your attitude stinks. You aren't looking for help and you're not going to get any Bard nerf answer. I'd be shocked if this thread wasn't a thinly veiled ploy to use as an example to your linkshell in order to get you a second set of ilvl 90 loot.

[aswedishtiger]

And another reply from someone who clearly doesnt know what he is talking about... why? :/
You only have ARC at 50... brd is lvl 30... why do you feel that you can comment on this issue? lol
Its not an issue of needed or not, we play to maximize everything. We will not fill the raid whit brd's if the same spot could be taken by better classes.
i personally have every class/job/profession capped at 50. every class whit atleast relic + full DL. I can choose what i want to play, yet i want to know more about this issue.
I could talk about the mechanics of the current endgame and why a nerfed Bard could be a problem, but.. come on you never played endgame.. and your BRD is lvl 30... lol

ok, next please... cant wait now xD

He has ACN at 50 not ARC and Bard needs nerf, little to no penalty for 100% uptime on boss. It's well known at this point. What is the point of this thread? Crying?

[Terk177]

It's pronounced "With," not Whit.

[Bluewhite]

I doubt it so there is really no reason for your worry cause you will still be needed to sing. ^^

BRD has low damage as a DPS, if the damage is nerfed it's going to be a completely useless job for majority of the content. Useless for primal/AK/or just any lv 50 dungeons or maybe even coil. NONE of the songs in this game are as game breaking as FFXI BRD. MNK can replace the silence duty so BRD is not a must have. There is a difference between able to do 80% of other DPS damage and being useful due to utility, and only able to do 40% of other DPS damage and completely not worth the spot. COR in FFXI was a pretty bad job unless you need attack buff or 2hr reset, I don't want BRD to be COR No.2.

BRD's damage is just fine as it is, anymore damage nerf will kill the job. I played the job to be able to contribute DPS, not occupying a spot and leech win. If you want BRD to be "utility/support" only, give us game breaking buffs like marches like FFXI BRD.

[Ariyn]

BRD has low damage as a DPS,

I think this is just all you. Our Brds are always on the top end of the meters, constantly running mp/tp song when needed, and have silences. I would take a bard in every group even if they did get a slight nerf. They are just too good to have. If you are at the bottom of dps then should probably look at your rotation and see what you're doing wrong

[Woodberry]

I think this is just all you. Our Brds are always on the top end of the meters, constantly running mp/tp song when needed, and have silences. I would take a bard in every group even if they did get a slight nerf. They are just too good to have. If you are at the bottom of dps then should probably look at your rotation and see what you're doing wrong

Though I do agree that people should always look at their damage rotations and try to improve. It is more likely your other dps classes that are not performing to potential if they are getting beaten by a bard, especially if they are running songs.