BARD NERF [requesting more details to the devs]

[Arkh]

How about you play the class that's the most fun playstyle for you, and not FotM

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/2815777/

nope

[Maku]

And another reply from someone who clearly doesnt know what he is talking about... why? :/
You only have ARC at 50... brd is lvl 30... why do you feel that you can comment on this issue? lol
Its not an issue of needed or not, we play to maximize everything. We will not fill the raid whit brd's if the same spot could be taken by better classes.
i personally have every class/job/profession capped at 50. every class whit atleast relic + full DL. I can choose what i want to play, yet i want to know more about this issue.
I could talk about the mechanics of the current endgame and why a nerfed Bard could be a problem, but.. come on you never played endgame.. and your BRD is lvl 30... lol

ok, next please... cant wait now xD

Just because someone has never done it doesn't mean that do not know what they are talking about. How could a BRD be replaced if you are using the songs? No other class DPS or not can do that. You can act all high and mighty as you want but you really are just thinking too much. No other class can offer the support BRD does and if your team uses the support BRD has and NEEDS it then how would you replace it? Mage's Ballad is by far the one thing most people use BRDs for (true mine just hit 30 last night but I tend to watch streams while at work (students have been being sent home most days thanks to these typhoons that are currently hitting us so no classes to teach). So just think about that for a second. Remove the BRD remove the Ballad your healers run outa MP. Ok replace bard with another healer to help. You are either going to be overhealing often and probably also lose substantial DPS because he did say a "little". Replace BRD with another DPS you lose Ballad and healers don't have the MP to cure that extra DPS. You replace BRD with another tank, three tanks and still not enough MP to keep them all alive and a drop in DPS.

Everything I just typed is logical EVEN if I have no personally done it yet. I have played MMOs most of my life and can, yes believe it or not, think logical about things I have not personally done yet.

[Oxide_Vanwen]

Arkh what I'm seeing here is the "Im better than everyone else attitude" that many elitest have when a Developer adjusts things to their preferred class. While I'm sure nobody on this forum cares about your multiple classes at 50. They do care about the adjustments that will be made to their classes. However they're being mature and not crying that the sky is falling as you seem to be doing. Your kind is what's wrong with the end game...if everything isn't perfect inside the deluded little self imposed reality you create...It's wrong.

[NeonC]

Well if you have every class at 50 with relics, Im curious why you chose Bard over them?
Either way, I do wish there was a more clear response from the dev's just to know what impact it will have on the class.

[Arkh]

I choose BRD because i always play ranged dps and we already had 3 main BLM's. For the guy talking about "endgame setups", i can tell you this. In my group we still have to find a fight where BRDs song make the difference in winning or loosing. We are currently farming turn 1 to 4 whitout using bard songs.
The funny thing is the fact that most of the reply are a direct attack to me and are from people which still have to play the current endgame.

Lets go back to the point (i never said im the best, i only replyed to the "go play another class" whit "i already have them, geared", no need to extrapolate that and make me a nerd elitist monster from the space, because im not)

BRD --> medium to lowest dps in the game --> nerf ---> we want to know what will become of the class --> 2 option after that for my FC

a) move the weekly points/allagan drop to another DD class
b) keep gearing the FC BRDs

[Maku]

I choose BRD because i always play ranged dps and we already had 3 main BLM's. For the guy talking about "endgame setups", i can tell you this. In my group we still have to find a fight where BRDs song make the difference in winning or loosing. We are currently farming turn 1 to 4 whitout using bard songs.
The funny thing is the fact that most of the reply are a direct attack to me and are from people which still have to play the current endgame.

Lets go back to the point (i never said im the best, i only replyed to the "go play another class" whit "i already have them, geared", no need to extrapolate that and make me a nerd elitist monster from the space, because im not)

BRD --> medium to lowest dps in the game --> nerf ---> we want to know what will become of the class --> 2 option after that for my FC

a) move the weekly points/allagan drop to another DD class
b) keep gearing the FC BRDs

You do see your own hypocrisies in this post right? You say BRD isn't the highest DPS AND that you are not using their Songs. Thus you are not maximizing anything and your whole argument about maximizing and minimizing is irrelevant as you yourself say you are playing it because you always play ranged DPS. But from your own mouth you said it doesn't matter what you want to play you want to maximize. How is choosing a lower ranking DPS that you do not need/use the utility of make you maximizing? So what exactly are you trying to maximize then that would be affected by the slight nerf to the BRDs DPS?

[Lecreuset]

Yoshida put heavy emphasis on little when he said a little too strong. I don't think the class might be destroyed like you are saying. Calm down a bit

[Allyrion]

You do see your own hypocrisies in this post right? You say BRD isn't the highest DPS AND that you are not using their Songs. Thus you are not maximizing anything and your whole argument about maximizing and minimizing is irrelevant as you yourself say you are playing it because you always play ranged DPS. But from your own mouth you said it doesn't matter what you want to play you want to maximize. How is choosing a lower ranking DPS that you do not need/use the utility of make you maximizing? So what exactly are you trying to maximize then that would be affected by the slight nerf to the BRDs DPS?

Don't bother.

[NothingEternal]

Maybe you should go back to Warcraft. You obviously thirst for the endless rat race.

You're Chicken Little. Zomg the sky is falling! We are farming turn 4 so it's time to overreact to maximization with supposed changes that haven't even happened yet endgame endgame omgomg.

Most people play games to, you know, have fun. There aren't world firsts in FF14. No one cares. Get some new friends since obviously the people you play with have warped your MMO mentality to this deranged state. You sure aren't impressing anyone here.

This is nothing but a disguised brag thread. Your attitude stinks. You aren't looking for help and you're not going to get any Bard nerf answer. I'd be shocked if this thread wasn't a thinly veiled ploy to use as an example to your linkshell in order to get you a second set of ilvl 90 loot.

[Nooblet]

You do see your own hypocrisies in this post right? You say BRD isn't the highest DPS AND that you are not using their Songs. Thus you are not maximizing anything and your whole argument about maximizing and minimizing is irrelevant as you yourself say you are playing it because you always play ranged DPS. But from your own mouth you said it doesn't matter what you want to play you want to maximize. How is choosing a lower ranking DPS that you do not need/use the utility of make you maximizing? So what exactly are you trying to maximize then that would be affected by the slight nerf to the BRDs DPS?

Probably because it has an interrupt, and it's dps isn't that far off. And you need physical dps... it does help to have done the content before making comments like this. Not to mention you do have the songs available should something happen that causes healers to need some extra mp.