Balence Issue: Sprint should not take TP

[ReplicaX]

That's kinda the point, Sprint is supposed to be your {|Run Away!|} skill. If a melee uses it, they lose dps capability for a bit, if a bard uses, same thing. If a mage uses it, they are running, so not doing any substantial dps anyway.

Either way, melee have gap closers and gap creators, which mages don't get. It's only fair that mages have access to something similar, and sprint was just there.

Bard has repelling shot, yes. However, its fixed movement, animation lock, and has limited use and range (Not far enough to get out of some AoE Circles). As a Bard I do in fact use my songs. Foe when there is no MP issues and Ballad when MP is low. We can't move and cast either, its part of the utility/hybrid of the job.

Mages also have Insta-casts for on the move and 2/4 have pets as well.

[Djeserit]

But that does not include the dot instant cast spells that can be done on the move.

Scathe: 120 Potency
Fire: 150 Potency + Astral Fire bonus

Bio: 40 Potency/3s, no direct dmg.
Ruin 2: 80 Potency, Double MP cost of Ruin

Conclusion: If a mage is sprint kiting you, they are doing shit damage. Run the other way and they'll do 0 damage. Alternatively, Gap closer > Heavy > Sprint effectively useless.

Not to mention:
Monk has Shoulder Tackle + Fists of Wind.
Dragoon has Jumps.
Bard is just OP cause instants + ranged.

Casters are the only ones who have to stand still to deal any respectable damage.

Mages also have Insta-casts for on the move and 2/4 have pets as well.

See above.

[Hachiko]

That's kinda the point, Sprint is supposed to be your {|Run Away!|} skill. If a melee uses it, they lose dps capability for a bit, if a bard uses, same thing. If a mage uses it, they are running, so not doing any substantial dps anyway.


Either way, melee have gap closers and gap creators, which mages don't get. It's only fair that mages have access to something similar, and sprint was just there.

If a Melee uses it they lose their ability to do any real dps for the foreseeable future. They will be able to use 1-2 weapon skills every 7.5 seconds on average. So not only can they do no damage while sprinting, but their damage is incredibly nerfed after the spriting.

And melee don't generally have gap closers and gap creators. PLD and WAR have neither, and only have a non-spammable low damage ranged attack. Monk has a gap closer on a 1.5 minute cooldown, and DRG has 2 gap closers on a 90 and 180 second cooldown. Sprint has a 30 second recast.

Admittedly, SE could add a bunch of PvP gap closers / gap creators in the game, but that's speculative.

Aside from that, casters all sorts of things they can do while moving:

Scathe
Aero
Regen
Bio
Ruin II
Miasma II

And that's just the spammable, no cooldown skills. There are a variety of other things that will be castable while on the move for casters, and more importantly all of the dot damage from casters will continue ticking, and the pet damage will still be going out too unless it gets killed.

Also, which melee classes have heavy right now? I don't think any of them do.

[ReplicaX]

Scathe: 120 Potency
Fire: 150 Potency + Astral Fire bonus

Bio: 40 Potency/3s, no direct dmg.
Ruin 2: 80 Potency, Double MP cost of Ruin

Conclusion: If a mage is sprint kiting you, they are doing shit damage. Run the other way and they'll do 0 damage. Alternatively, Gap closer > Heavy > Sprint effectively useless.

Not to mention:
Monk has Shoulder Tackle + Fists of Wind.
Dragoon has Jumps.
Bard is just OP cause instants + ranged.

Casters are the only ones who have to stand still to deal any respectable damage.



See above.

Titan: Everyone has to dodge, sprint isn't required for mages, everyone does respectable damage when the skill is there.

BLM: Aetherial Manipulation, Instants, DoTs, High Spike Dmg per Cast, unlimited MP thru proper management.
SMN: Garuda 40+ DPS alone on Titan, Instants, more DoTs and MP Regains.

[Engineer]

They should have an advantage of running away since Mages have low armor and health.

But.. i think it shouldn't take away all tp.

I would change it so when initiating Sprint your tp ticks down slowly until you hit sprint again to stop running.

Also I would like if sprint wasn't an ability, but a natural action like jump.

[Vindicate]

I'd rather have no instant as BLM than Scathe, since its dmg is absolutely not calculateable. If you luck, you get the double damage proc and if not, well gz to an Instant which does less dmg than a fire I without Astral Fire Stacks, which is enormous low (compared to the rest)
Aetherial Manipulation lost its usefulness after Ifrit for Eruption, most battlefields for bosses are just not big enough to use it effective.
The only DoT from the BLM is bound to a fairly long cast-time (depends if I, II or III) and with a 5% chance on tick to get a free-proc, well we dont calculate RNG to the mobility shooting while running or do we? And dont tell me that WE got swiftcast, evrey 60 seconds one instant skill is not enough to throw "efficient" damage.

But to get something useful out of here, they should increase the TP bar like the normal MP bar with levels and/or equipment and just fix the Sprint to not cost TP and just give a regular runspeed increase for a few seconds, doesnt have to be 20

[Livi]

I disagree.

DoM block themselves while casting, DoW free to move while using skill.

And this is from a guy who doesn't play as any of DoM.

[axemtitanium]

TP regen in this game is ridiculously high already. You can sprint out of whatever bad and by the time you're back in range of the boss, your TP will be back to spammable amounts.

[Shneibel]

I have np with sprint eat TP, the TP regen way to fast. The TP will regen 2-4 sec after active sprint with enough amount to do standard 1-2-3 combo and a melee or BRD can do dmg while the sprint is in effect but the mage cant, their cast on move do shitty dmg beside the Fester from SMN if the dots are all setup but Fester is special skill, not a standard skill you can use often so it does not count

[yukikaze_yanagi]

ok.
Next patch notes: sprint now don't consume TP upon using. Sprint recast is now 5 minutes. You're welcome