Balence Issue: Sprint should not take TP

[Mythrella]

Scathe
Aero
Regen
Bio
Ruin II
Miasma II

These are low damage/healing spells. And who spams dots? My monk friend does a lot more damage on the move than aero spam, and can jump to the boss... dragoon I don't know much about. Tanks can still block, no? TP regens so fast so how is it really an issue?

I don't use sprint much in combat personally but I don't support a nerf to it just for casters. They're already rooted for anything worth casting, unlike melee/bards.

Surely there's a better argument you guys can use to get it nerfed. The fact that I can cast aero on the move isn't really a good one...

[ReplicaX]

I don't use sprint much in combat personally but I don't support a nerf to it just for casters. They're already rooted for anything worth casting, unlike melee/bards.

It's not a nerf, as its not a requirement in battle at all. It's not needed at all. Therefore it is not a nerf to casters at all. If a caster relies on sprint, they need to rethink their strats.

Sprint is there for convenience more than anything. Not a regular off GCD skill for Mages.

I disagree, I like it the way it is now.

I hope that when Thf rolls around we get a flee that does the same thing as sprint, but with no TP drain. If everyone can sprint carelessly, flee will be pointless.

So by your reasoning Mages can sprint carelessly as TP is useless to them as it stands now and flee would be useless.

[Dragonskin]

So by your reasoning Mages can sprint carelessly as TP is useless to them as it stands now and flee would be useless.

Except that if a THF has Flee that doesn't drain TP then they could potentially have access to any high damage ability and with the enhanced speed they would have a much easier time getting into position for that ability assuming there is a positional requirement.

Casters can use sprint and move, but unless you are talking about a BLM with a firestarter/thundercloud proc saved then none of them have access to a high damage ability on the move. Bio 2 and Scathe aren't big damage. The only other abilities are DoTs which are not high damage since they have damage over time.

So if Flee didn't use TP it would be amazing for THF and make it stand out since any other classes.. especially a melee one.. may not have enough TP to do any attacks for a few seconds right after using sprint.

[Mythrella]

It's not a nerf, as its not a requirement in battle at all. It's not needed at all. Therefore it is not a nerf to casters at all. If a caster relies on sprint, they need to rethink their strats.

Sprint is there for convenience more than anything. Not a regular off GCD skill for Mages.

Ok, call it whatever you like. It's a nerf to someone like me who uses it constantly when gathering and running around town

As stated, I don't really use it in combat. I just started Coil and we got to t4 pretty easily (Coil is really the only content that matters in game right now IMO) and can't see where sprint would even be remotely useful anyway, for anyone. I haven't seen t5 yet so I don't know about that one, or if they fixed it yet.

Still waiting for a better argument as why it should be changed. My going from gathering node to gathering node with it is still slower than a telebot heh.

[ReplicaX]

Ok, call it whatever you like. It's a nerf to someone like me who uses it constantly when gathering and running around town

How does removing TP Cost from an ALL Class skill with its own cooldown effect this? You need to read the thread. The suggestion wouldn't even effect this.

You are waiting on a better argument, yet you are ignoring even the core points in this discussion.

[Mythrella]

How does removing TP Cost from an ALL Class skill with its own cooldown effect this? You need to read the thread. The suggestion wouldn't even effect this.

You are waiting on a better argument, yet you are ignoring even the core points in this discussion.

I think you missed a few posts past the opener

Here, I'll repost the best one for you:

Sprint is fine the way it is.

[ReplicaX]

Here, I'll repost the best one for you

I understand now, you made your point and don't care about other's opinions unless they agree with you.

As a monk I don't think the sprint cost should change. If you are a melee and need this change, than you aren't playing right.

If you are a Caster and need sprint, then you aren't playing right.

The OP brought up a perfectly valid point. I could care less if they made sprint buff drop being on a threat list even.

What I find more disturbing is Mages defending Sprint as if it is needed in combat for them, when in many cases it does more harm than good or you are already too late. Mages also have other tools to combat threat, once again being "squishy" or getting hit directly by a mob due to hate in a party is a completely different issue within the party. I rest my case and should have long ago as my opinion is clearly stated and there is no point to continue the discussion.

[reality_check]

If you are a Caster and need sprint, then you aren't playing right.

Try healing Titan without sprint. Healers can't just stop casting like DPS can and have there be no repercussion. I need to find safe spots as soon as possible on Titan fight so I can go back to healing that tank who took two bomb bursts or that monk who sat in weights.

[Etgar]

I understand now, you made your point and don't care about other's opinions unless they agree with you.



If you are a Caster and need sprint, then you aren't playing right.

The OP brought up a perfectly valid point. I could care less if they made sprint buff drop being on a threat list even.

What I find more disturbing is Mages defending Sprint as if it is needed in combat for them, when in many cases it does more harm than good or you are already too late. Mages also have other tools to combat threat, once again being "squishy" or getting hit directly by a mob due to hate in a party is a completely different issue within the party. I rest my case and should have long ago as my opinion is clearly stated and there is no point to continue the discussion.

Nothing like a bard telling people moving while in range isn't hard.

[Pinworms]

I think sprint it is fine also as is. There are lots of times a caster might be slow on a move because of casting a spell. We don't get to cast and run. Mage and healers suffers when we move.