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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    Could someone point to me the post that says the Armory sytem is being abolished and that Jobs will be replacing it? Because this is what people seem to believe.
    They never state that explicitly, but when you follow their choice of implementation to its logical conclusion, then it's pretty obvious that the armory system is being downplayed, and in fact, probably made redundant.

    I mean, one has only to look at the recent changes made to Thaumaturge to see SE's new stance on classes. Class is now equivalent to role. And that was by no means the original incarnation of the Armory System.
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    Quote Originally Posted by User201109011315 View Post

    I mean, one has only to look at the recent changes made to Thaumaturge to see SE's new stance on classes. Class is now equivalent to role. And that was by no means the original incarnation of the Armory System.
    well said sir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by User201109011315 View Post
    I mean, one has only to look at the recent changes made to Thaumaturge to see SE's new stance on classes. Class is now equivalent to role. And that was by no means the original incarnation of the Armory System.
    Just because they limited the Thaumaturge's curing abilities doesn't mean class = role. All along, the classes have certain abilities that can't be shared, and among the ones that can be shared, they are limited in potency when used off-class. The classes were never meant to be completely identical to each other at any point in time. That was never the intention with the Armory System.

    It's as simple as this: Thaumaturges weren't meant to be better healers than Conjurers. So they got nerfed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyRae View Post
    Just because they limited the Thaumaturge's curing abilities doesn't mean class = role. All along, the classes have certain abilities that can't be shared, and among the ones that can be shared, they are limited in potency when used off-class. The classes were never meant to be completely identical to each other at any point in time. That was never the intention with the Armory System.

    It's as simple as this: Thaumaturges weren't meant to be better healers than Conjurers. So they got nerfed.
    A) The entire thaumaturge class is based on life/death and healing.

    B) Conjurer and Thaum were both given healing abilities because they were both meant to have capacity to be healers.

    C) conj was never meant to be isolated as "the healer class". Thm was never meant to be isolated as the "not healer class". Now Conj has been isolated as the healer class. Now conj = healer. Now conjurer is equated with the role of healing. Hence class now equates to role. Hence armory system has changed from being a system based on versatility and customisation to being repositioned as a "this is your class, this is your role" system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by User201109011315 View Post
    A) The entire thaumaturge class is based on life/death and healing.

    B) Conjurer and Thaum were both given healing abilities because they were both meant to have capacity to be healers.

    C) conj was never meant to be isolated as "the healer class". Thm was never meant to be isolated as the "not healer class". Now Conj has been isolated as the healer class. Now conj = healer. Now conjurer is equated with the role of healing. Hence class now equates to role. Hence armory system has changed from being a system based on versatility and customisation to being repositioned as a "this is your class, this is your role" system.
    They're going through a little thing called 'game balancing' at the moment. I don't know if you noticed this whilst you hide under your rock but they're making radical changes to the game. this means that some aspects of the game, including it's classes, may bounce up and down like a yo-yo for a while whilst they try to even everything out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by User201109011315 View Post
    A) The entire thaumaturge class is based on life/death and healing/Damage

    B) Conjurer and Thaum were both given healing abilities because they were both meant to have capacity to be healers.

    C) conj was never meant to be isolated as "the healer class". Thm was never meant to be isolated as the "not healer class". Now Conj has been isolated as the healer class. Now conj = healer. Now conjurer is equated with the role of healing. Hence class now equates to role. Hence armory system has changed from being a system based on versatility and customisation to being repositioned as a "this is your class, this is your role" system.
    Apearently you are a little confused. As the facts stand now, little to nothing in your post is accurate to the actual situation in game.
    I had to modify section A accordingly as you tend to scew fact or omit important information.
    Section B is on the other hand a gennerally accepted statement.
    Section C is the belief of the week minded. If you are allowing others to force you to heal when every SP party, NM party, or raid party can accomplish there goal with THMs doing 100% of the healing, then thats your fault.
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    I'm still waiting for that post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    I'm still waiting for that post.
    I'm sure it's coming eventually if Yoshi ever bothers to articulate his wishy-washy ideas.

    Just remember you ever doubted me.
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    That's okay, I'm sure you're keeping track for me.
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