Tank HP Requirements For Endgame DF Content

[Lisotte]

man soo many haters, if you have less HP you are bound to wipe, plain and simple. there is no such thing as easy garuda clears in the 4ks, AK and WP are debatable but if you have horrible pugs you need my figures to effectively carry. Garuda is barely PUGable, most DF groups wipe three times at least. and obviously I feel DF Titan is out of the question right now, a more honest figure is 7k with an FC, or High 6K.

Just... please, please stop. I don't think you can embarrass yourself more than you already have. The simple fact that you're putting blanket amounts of HP for both PLD and WAR shows just by itself that you have NO idea what you're talking about.

[Remn]

man soo many haters, if you have less HP you are bound to wipe, plain and simple. there is no such thing as easy garuda clears in the 4ks, AK and WP are debatable but if you have horrible pugs you need my figures to effectively carry. Garuda is barely PUGable, most DF groups wipe three times at least. and obviously I feel DF Titan is out of the question right now, a more honest figure is 7k with an FC, or High 6K.

if you dodge all slipstream then 4K is plenty. I really hope you talking about WAR has high 6k or 7k for titan, becasue there no way in hell for a PLD would get that high with DL or DS stuff. you would need full ilv70 and +1 relicn (sword and shield) then 3 or more piece(depend on your race) of ilv 90 just to break 6K.
btw the above assumetion do not include Food.

[chishi]

man soo many haters, if you have less HP you are bound to wipe, plain and simple. there is no such thing as easy garuda clears in the 4ks, AK and WP are debatable but if you have horrible pugs you need my figures to effectively carry. Garuda is barely PUGable, most DF groups wipe three times at least. and obviously I feel DF Titan is out of the question right now, a more honest figure is 7k with an FC, or High 6K.

I like that you don't specify which tank. If you want a PLD with high 6s/7k...well so do I but then we're talking full 90 gear. Also most geared tanks don't pug stuff. If you want a tank to carry you try shouting for one.

[Amyas]

man soo many haters, if you have less HP you are bound to wipe, plain and simple. there is no such thing as easy garuda clears in the 4ks, AK and WP are debatable but if you have horrible pugs you need my figures to effectively carry. Garuda is barely PUGable, most DF groups wipe three times at least. and obviously I feel DF Titan is out of the question right now, a more honest figure is 7k with an FC, or High 6K.

AK and WP were meant to be done in af and white wep, white accessories. Unless you're farming, even then your tank in that would be A-OK. Just because you can't heal good doesn't mean your tank should be forced to carry you brah.

[Gogatsu390]

man soo many haters, if you have less HP you are bound to wipe, plain and simple. there is no such thing as easy garuda clears in the 4ks, AK and WP are debatable but if you have horrible pugs you need my figures to effectively carry. Garuda is barely PUGable, most DF groups wipe three times at least. and obviously I feel DF Titan is out of the question right now, a more honest figure is 7k with an FC, or High 6K.

How are we hating? We're simply telling you the facts. The numbers you puting out seem only to apply to WAR, and even then they're kind of pushing it as I've only seen a VIT WAR break 7.5k, and lets be honest an all VIT WAR is kinda pointless. The only way a PLD could come close to those numbers are if they were decked out in AF+1 (ilvl90) gear. If your so called "guide" does apply to PLD then as I stated earlier you're stating that you don't party with PLDs... which is fine that is your preference just get your facts straight.

Your refusal to party with PLDs or tanks that you deem inferior is as bad as a tank that doesn't want to party with a healer that doesn't have "Swift Cast" Should you have it? Yes. Do you need it? No.

[Musashidon]

man soo many haters, if you have less HP you are bound to wipe, plain and simple. there is no such thing as easy garuda clears in the 4ks, AK and WP are debatable but if you have horrible pugs you need my figures to effectively carry. Garuda is barely PUGable, most DF groups wipe three times at least. and obviously I feel DF Titan is out of the question right now, a more honest figure is 7k with an FC, or High 6K.

i have main tanked garuda hm with under 5k hp pug group won first try. easy kills? that's based on your group not my hp if they can't handle moving the adds properly and get double or triple aoe'd they will die no matter the hp, if the red add doesn't die it will aoe and basically kill everyone.

[Yamitri]

man soo many haters, if you have less HP you are bound to wipe, plain and simple. there is no such thing as easy garuda clears in the 4ks, AK and WP are debatable but if you have horrible pugs you need my figures to effectively carry. Garuda is barely PUGable, most DF groups wipe three times at least. and obviously I feel DF Titan is out of the question right now, a more honest figure is 7k with an FC, or High 6K.

[Nero]

man soo many haters, if you have less HP you are bound to wipe, plain and simple. there is no such thing as easy garuda clears in the 4ks, AK and WP are debatable but if you have horrible pugs you need my figures to effectively carry. Garuda is barely PUGable, most DF groups wipe three times at least. and obviously I feel DF Titan is out of the question right now, a more honest figure is 7k with an FC, or High 6K.

And by "haters" you mean people using common sense? Your attitude shows what is happen a lot in the Game; "Relic+1, FULL DL for AK/WP onry." You are simply trying to compensate your own shortcomings with your initial Post, since 8k HP are pathetic for Titan.

By Your Logic a "new" Player, or someone working on his first WAR/PLD Relic would be never able to beat Titan, since without certain Gear you simply will not reach those Numbers and a good amount of that Gear is coming from Coil/Myth. Just with DL Gear you will not reach 8k HP on Warrior. lol

[InVizO]

And by "haters" you mean people using common sense? Your attitude shows what is happen a lot in the Game; "Relic+1, FULL DL for AK/WP onry." You are simply trying to compensate your own shortcomings with your initial Post, since 8k HP are pathetic for Titan.

By Your Logic a "new" Player, or someone working on his first WAR/PLD Relic would be never able to beat Titan, since without certain Gear you simply will not reach those Numbers and a good amount of that Gear is coming from Coil/Myth. Just with DL Gear you will not reach 8k HP on Warrior. lol

like this guy, obviously he missed "duty finder" I think I can safely lump the rest of the QQers in with him; not using their heads.

[CianaIezuborn]

like this guy, obviously he missed "duty finder" I think I can safely lump the rest of the QQers in with him; not using their heads.

I think you're missing their point, they're saying if you need a severely over geared tank to complete these dungeons, you're not an "average" player with "average" mental facilities. You're closer to the 3ft with floaties side of the player skill pool. Just saying.