Ff14 A realm unfinished

[CatofNineTails]

Really? Last I checked it's the same few people with mostly people disagreeing. As well as many people who don't know that these same topics pop up in every mmo out there. I also see people complaining about how at launch there was lag and server ques. That was really hilarious. It's almost as if these people never played another mmo before. XD

its mostly people disagreeing with the same overused excuses. Do fates/leves/level another job...etc... none of which are actually endgame items.
the endgame is NOTHING in this game bahamuts coil has no reason to even exist beyond being a dungeon they tossed in to keep the sheep happy with gear requirements high enough to force 250 runs in AK and a few avatar HM runs for a weapon.

defending the pathetic endgame in this remake is laughable.

[Reslin]

defending the pathetic endgame in this remake is laughable.

You know what else is laughable? Not understanding that no other game other than WoW has arguably released with as much content. Even Sidious has taken note of that. His argument is that every MMO after WoW has sucked. Also stop with the "Should not exist." your argument is "There's no big storyline to it so it shouldn't exist." You're the only one making that argument. You don't even know what people are discussing. You're taking bits and pieces of what other people say and are trying to apply it to your own viewpoint.

P.S. I never once claimed "Go level up another character." "Go craft." My argument is this. No other mmo in a long long time has had this much end game content at release. There's also more people who are defending the "content" than there are with people disagreeing.

This game has some serious issues. "End game content." currently isn't one of them. More content is coming. There's issues in the game we're barely having addressed.

[CatofNineTails]

You know what else is laughable? Not understanding that no other game other than WoW has arguably released with as much content. Even Sidious has taken note of that. His argument is that every MMO after WoW has sucked. Also stop with the "Should not exist." your argument is "There's no big storyline to it so it shouldn't exist." You're the only one making that argument. You don't even know what people are discussing. You're taking bits and pieces of what other people say and are trying to apply it to your own viewpoint.

P.S. I never once claimed "Go level up another character." "Go craft." My argument is this. No other mmo in a long long time has had this much end game content at release. There's also more people who are defending the "content" than there are with people disagreeing.

This game has some serious issues. "End game content." currently isn't one of them. More content is coming. There's issues in the game we're barely having addressed

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THIS GAME IS 3 YEARS OLD most of the current content existed BEFORE they redid it. what is actually "new" content is a joke. fixing how poorly what existed worked is not creating new content.

PS: people who think the endgame is a joke for he most part are leaving he game or maybe you should look at FC member lists and count how many characters have not logged in in weeks. its pretty retarded to not know that people who will be staying will outnumber those who are leaving on the forums.

[Reslin]

THIS GAME IS 3 YEARS OLD most of the current content existed BEFORE they redid it. what is actually "new" content is a joke. fixing how poorly what existed worked is not creating new content.

Except most of these players ARE new. Most people couldn't stomach even hitting max in 1.0. I didn't even touch this game in 1.0 because one look told me it was trash. For most people it is new. Even most people who made characters on the legacy servers aren't legacy players. Also there's still plenty of new content. It's not a joke. Coils is not a joke. Again, your argument for coils to be a joke is that "There's not a big storyline going into it." That kind of logic is hilarious in an mmo which is about character progression.

[CatofNineTails]

Except most of these players ARE new. Most people couldn't stomach even hitting max in 1.0. I didn't even touch this game in 1.0 because one look told me it was trash. For most people it is new. Even most people who made characters on the legacy servers aren't legacy players. Also there's still plenty of new content. It's not a joke. Coils is not a joke. Again, your argument for coils to be a joke is that "There's not a big storyline going into it." That kind of logic is hilarious in an mmo which is about character progression.

LMAO!! so because its new to a player excuses the COMPLETE lack of actually new content they made?

[Reslin]

LMAO!! so because its new to a player excuses the COMPLETE lack of actually new content they made?

Again, what did you expect? They had to re-do the game almost entirely from the ground up. Even the combat system is drastically different than before. To change the entire end game to something completely new would have taken years.

Note. I am not a Final Fantasy Fanboy. I'm a realist. I didn't play FF12. I didn't play FF13. I didn't play 1.0 FF14. Why? IMO none of these were good games. FF14 is different. It's good enough to play and sub too. It still has more content than most mmo's out there. We also have a good idea what's coming in 2.1 and 2.2. These updates have far more in them than most mmo's updates.

Right now imo there's no real alternative to FF14 at the moment other than WoW itself or GW.

Stop right there that is COMPLETELY false!

they did not remake the game from ground up. 95% of the current content cities,mobs,lore story line....etc existed and received a face lift for graphics and code change for interaction. this is not what you are trying to imply because what takes those years to do was already there and reused.

they did make some big changes in how the entire game functions but the most time consuming content already existed.

You.. have no idea how much changing coding, graphics, and even all the gameplay mechanics do you? Even the story was different so that means hiring new writers. The way zones worked were different and even zone layouts have changed in certain areas to certain degrees. How the very game functions was almost entirely changed. You know how long it takes to make an mmo from the ground up? Usually around 8 years for a good one. 3 years for a facelift? That sounds about right.

Edited because of daily limit.

[CatofNineTails]

Again, what did you expect? They had to re-do the game almost entirely from the ground up. Even the combat system is drastically different than before. To change the entire end game to something completely new would have taken years.

Note. I am not a Final Fantasy Fanboy. I'm a realist. I didn't play FF12. I didn't play FF13. I didn't play 1.0 FF14. Why? IMO none of these were good games. FF14 is different. It's good enough to play and sub too. It still has more content than most mmo's out there. We also have a good idea what's coming in 2.1 and 2.2. These updates have far more in them than most mmo's updates.

Stop right there that is COMPLETELY false!

they did not remake the game from ground up. 95% of the current content cities,mobs,lore story line....etc existed and received a face lift for graphics and code change for interaction. this is not what you are trying to imply because what takes those years to do was already there and reused.

they did make some big changes in how the entire game functions but the most time consuming content already existed.

You.. have no idea how much changing coding, graphics, and even all the gameplay mechanics do you? Even the story was different so that means hiring new writers. The way zones worked were different and even zone layouts have changed in certain areas to certain degrees. How the very game functions was almost entirely changed. You know how long it takes to make an mmo from the ground up? Usually around 8 years for a good one. 3 years for a facelift? That sounds about right.

guess a few years of working with 3D graphics might give me some clue what takes time and what doesn't. this is a facelift they decided to make the game a post 50 game but forgot to make the post 50 content because it didn't exist yet and they couldn't quickly alter it like all the other content was. lots of things you will think take forever to do are done in no time at all because software has come a long long way even in the last 10 years. having the primary building blocks already in place makes it 100 times easier to blast it out in a shorter time. the biggest waste of time would have been following the legacy players requests (having to alter plans to fit some random requests can create serious loss of time)

[mylam]

Stop right there that is COMPLETELY false!

they did not remake the game from ground up. 95% of the current content cities,mobs,lore story line....etc existed and received a face lift for graphics and code change for interaction. this is not what you are trying to imply because what takes those years to do was already there and reused.

they did make some big changes in how the entire game functions but the most time consuming content already existed.

Lol wut? So your saying that just because the skeleton of 1.0 still remains that ARR is essentially a re-release and that no effort went into this at all? And define "Most time consuming content" please, because things such as story and map redesigns are so quick and easy hey?

[Mujen]

Personally, the game to me plays like an extended BETA that's under development for a lot of tweaking and additions. CatofNineTails does have some good points.

[aswedishtiger]

Lol wut? So your saying that just because the skeleton of 1.0 still remains that ARR is essentially a re-release and that no effort went into this at all? And define "Most time consuming content" please, because things such as story and map redesigns are so quick and easy hey?

because big bad level 32 with no experience with FF14 1.0 knows what he's talking about. go to bed man. cala is right, blubbering idiot #89389