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    soshifood's Avatar
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    Princess Lenna
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    Conjurer Lv 50

    A Question Regarding INT and MND Allocation for Scholar

    So I've just unlocked Scholar for myself. I figured that I'd pool all stats into INT for my Arcanist and use Cleric Stance to properly heal as Scholar. Strangely, it seems that when I turn Cleric Stance on and my INT is less than MND, I seem to be healing for less (about 30-40 hp for my level). When it's off and MND is more than INT, I'm healing much less. Is there a bug that I'm unaware of or is this an actual feature?
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    Egwene Al'vere
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    The problem with what you're trying to do - and I've considered doing it as well - is that you're only taking your Attribute Points into account. All your gear has Mind on it, and when you switch to Cleric Stance, all those gear stats are tossed out the window, and you're trying to rely on the 30 points you put into INT.

    Also, Cleric's Stance lowers healing output by 20%, so even if you could run around in full gear with INT instead of Mind, you would still be gimping yourself by 20%. Because if you put all your points into Mind and wore Mind gear, it would equal roughly what your INT would equal with 30 INT points, and DPS gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peaches View Post
    The problem with what you're trying to do - and I've considered doing it as well - is that you're only taking your Attribute Points into account. All your gear has Mind on it, and when you switch to Cleric Stance, all those gear stats are tossed out the window, and you're trying to rely on the 30 points you put into INT.

    Also, Cleric's Stance lowers healing output by 20%, so even if you could run around in full gear with INT instead of Mind, you would still be gimping yourself by 20%. Because if you put all your points into Mind and wore Mind gear, it would equal roughly what your INT would equal with 30 INT points, and DPS gear.
    Ah, I must have not paid attention to the description for Cleric Stance. Or was it changed some time after beta?

    I understand what you mean now, thanks. I guess buying the stat reallocation scroll from Grand Companies is the only way to go.
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    Liadan Summerfield
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    Nope, it's been that way since at least Beta 3.
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    Lisotte Poena
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    Pretty much you either pump INT and go SMN, or pump MND and go SCH. You have to use that GC item to switch.
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    RyuujinZERO's Avatar
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    K'hali Thalen
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    If you absolutely must have the best of both worlds, I'd advise rolling with mind.

    Having reduced heals endangers your party; as a healer you owe them to do your job right, whereas the minor loss of DPS while set up as a summoner is not so noticable or detrimental. I mean I wouldn't advise you try run titan as a SMN if you dumped into mind, but as a SCH main, when I sometimes need to run SMN I still put out enough DPS to clear demon wall and the like; which is where it counts.
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    Maku Haikasu
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    Pump VIT. Easily the most important state in the game atm.
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    T'era Rhiki
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    In other words, Cleric Stance should be available to summoners where it would actually do some good, and not to scholars?
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    Why would Cleric Stance do good on SMNs? Even with 30points placed in MND a SMNs INT is still going to be higher. When Cleric Stance is active it switches those two stats AND cuts your healing spells % cure. It is useful on SCH cause we can DPS as well as cure. SMN has zero use for it thanks to the cure % down it gives.
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    Zanika Voidessia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maku View Post
    Why would Cleric Stance do good on SMNs? Even with 30points placed in MND a SMNs INT is still going to be higher. When Cleric Stance is active it switches those two stats AND cuts your healing spells % cure. It is useful on SCH cause we can DPS as well as cure. SMN has zero use for it thanks to the cure % down it gives.
    That's half right. When CS is active, it switches your Mind and INT attributes as well as reduces healing by 20%, but it ALSO increases damage by 10% (unless it was changed recently). This makes it useful for any SCH with free time on their hands, and useful for SMN as well since they're supposed to be damaging instead of healing anyway.
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    Last edited by Zanika; 10-26-2013 at 12:45 PM.

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