[dev1082] The (un)Official Mount System Thread

[Matty86]

From what I gather from this thread FF = Chocobos and nothing else. The only thing that makes a Final Fantasy game Final Fantasy is Chocobos. Not the setting, the story, the music, the general art style, the combat, the classes or any of that. Just Chocobos. Not only that but it can only be exclusively Chocobos, anything else just steals their thunder and that's what people are afraid of.

Seriously though, give me a true compelling argument for having ONLY Chocobos. "It's FF" isn't enough, there has to be a better argument. This series evolves and this game could make use of it. By the "stick to tradition" logic we shouldn't have ever added any new classes past what we had in FF1 because it's just not FF. It really just tarnishes what made FF in the first place. Also we should be playing with menu turn-based battle systems in instanced fight zones that randomly trigger as you walk along.

Classes has nothing to do whit mounts. (the old classes were a lot better anyway)
Chocobos and moogles are not the only thing that makes FF, but their are a ring in a chain, you can't broke even one ring.
"it's FF"
This should be more than enough: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbSnTydh2kc

[Matty86]

We also shouldn't add chocobos, since that wasn't Final Fantasy I either.

If by mount, the detractors simply mean an animal that we used to get around in, well we've also had dragons, so that point is invalid.

I'm seriously starting to wonder who makes up the fanbase here. The ones that have been with the series since its inception and appreciate its MO of refining the old and introducing new, or the awkward wave of neo-FF/anime/jpoptards that popped up around FFX's life that demand that everything cater to every exact thing that they're used to at all times.

The first FF (the real one for nes) hadn't any mount, the first mount in the saga appear in the wood in FFII, and you know what that mount was? a CHOCOBO.
Really I can't remember were you ride a dragon expect in ff legend, and really legends are another game from the ff saga.
FFVIII got some cars... but you use it less than one time in the game.

[Arcell]

Chocobos and moogles are not the only thing that makes FF, but their are a ring in a chain, you can't broke even one ring.

Ah but this wouldn't be breaking any of the rings, it would be adding to it which is certainly possible and in some cases desirable.

[Shika]

Well I'm speaking about "mount" system, we can have trains, airship, submarines, etc. but those are "trasportation" system, it's a different story.

In all FF the only mount is the chocobo, the bike in VII was just a mini-game, same for snowboard.
Magitek were made for fight, not for move faster in the world map.

You know why this FANTASTIC saga is dying? Because they're "breaking the rule".

I buy FF to play FF, I don't want FF to be another game, I'm not going to buy NBA if I want to play football game...
If you are a FF fans, you'll agree that no mount better then a chocobo can ever be made.

I can't see people riding dogs, dodo's or any other shit that is not a chocobo, at least not untill the game title is Final Fantasy.

I'm not english, I hope you understand.

I only mention other modes of transport because a "Mount" is a mode of transport, and this is an unofficial discussion thread- I was just putting my two pennies in ^^ Basically I was saying "Hell yeah!" to chocobos, but that I'm also not hugely against either other "mounts" or modes of transport. That is just my opinion, which of course not everyone will agree with

mount1
vb
1. to go up (a hill, stairs, etc.); climb
2. to get up on (a horse, a platform, etc.)

Also, what if the word used (i.e. mount) also meant a sort of transport that you could get up onto (airship, crazy magitek armour etc)?
Perhaps the word was used entirely on purpose to only mean an animal that you ride, but with airships flying around above us I would be sorely disappointed if we did not get access to use airships too (or any other forms of transport) in the future. That's all I was saying ^^

[Malakhim]

The first FF (the real one for nes) hadn't any mount, the first mount in the saga appear in the wood in FFII, and you know what that mount was? a CHOCOBO.
Really I can't remember were you ride a dragon expect in ff legend, and really legends are another game from the ff saga.
FFVIII got some cars... but you use it less than one time in the game.

Nope. Chocobos aren't Final Fantasy because they weren't in the first one, which seems to be the argument that people like to use when denouncing anything new.

Also, Final Fantasy V had you using a dragon as a mount(albeit for a short while), and Final Fantasy Legend III isn't an actual Final Fantasy game, it's a SaGa game. If you guys are going to be making claims about what "is and isn't Final Fantasy", I expect arguments backed by expert knowledge on the series.

That isn't a stab at you(you DID ask nicely) as much as it is against everyone who tosses around the "it's not Final Fantasy, fuck that!" argument around like it was about to go out of style, so sorry if I was a little off-putting.

[Nuru]

If SE adds more than just Chocobos, I can see them having different uses. Chocobos would dig for items in FFXI on using Gysahl Greens, but could be used for something different in this game.

Perhaps different mounts would have different speeds and uses. Like, say we have some sort of mount that is said to be able to dig through rock, it could be used to find hidden caves that would reveal some excavation points for Miners and perhaps some treasure chests with gil or other useful items.

Chocobos themselves could have digging again, and they could possibly be able to communicate with friendly animals to get clues on where to dig next. That'd be adorable :3

Each mount could be its own Gathering Class in this case. >.>

[Punainen]

I just don't want to see creatures implemented that are mounts and nothing else. If we're going for a variety of mounts to suit people's tastes, I'd like to see ridable mobs. Like a dodo mount, a megalocrab mount, things like that...

[Bokuhn]

Chocobos only.

The End

[Matty86]

Nope. Chocobos aren't Final Fantasy because they weren't in the first one, which seems to be the argument that people like to use when denouncing anything new.

Also, Final Fantasy V had you using a dragon as a mount(albeit for a short while), and Final Fantasy Legend III isn't an actual Final Fantasy game, it's a SaGa game. If you guys are going to be making claims about what "is and isn't Final Fantasy", I expect arguments backed by expert knowledge on the series.

That isn't a stab at you(you DID ask nicely) as much as it is against everyone who tosses around the "it's not Final Fantasy, fuck that!" argument around like it was about to go out of style, so sorry if I was a little off-putting.

Main saga:

Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy II
Final Fantasy III
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy V
Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy XI
Final Fantasy XII
Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy XIV

Non Main Saga: (the ones whit titles added other than final fantasy + number)


All the VII and IV collection
Dissidia
Legends (And this is another game, it's not even born as ff)
Tactics ones
Crystal Chronicles
4 heros
ecc

I'm not saying that the one outside the main saga are bad or anything (I loved many of them), just they don't belong to the main saga.
The only mount in FF as always been the chocobo since II (the first one didn't have any mounts at all), breaking those little thing are not improving the saga, they are just killing it.

Anyway it's my opinion as a fan, (I've played them all, full cleared them all) like I said, I can't really see people going out riding dogs, monkeys, dragons or whatever ouside chocobos in this game.

[Alaltus]

If we are to have mounts other than chocobos give them something of their own so they arent just a image change. Myself i would like to see some form of battlefield where you can fight whilst mounted implemented. Square enix has been throwing armoured chocobo's at us for a while now its about time they got into the action too.