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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadlySwordz View Post
    This is not World of Warcraft. Means of transportation in the Final Fantasy series is just Chocobos. They should let you raise your own chocobo like they did in FFXI. Other than that, any other types of mounts wouldn't fit in the game
    1) WoW is not the only game to have a variety of mounts available.

    2) You run out of chocobo colors and then what?

    3) Chocobo raising was terrible in implementation and concept. To reiterate: You do not design a system to waste an entire month's worth of the player's time to get only a chocobo that has less stamina and runs slower than the rentals and is temperamental as all hell.

    Expanding the available mounts also means they can add those as drops from certain boss mobs or NMs. I'm not asking for job-specific mounts of anything like that (though the thought of an arcanist riding mobile armor or a Paladin having his trusty warhorse is tempting). I'm just asking for something to add variety to player-owned mounts as well as expanding beyond the easily-limited stock of Chocobo.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    1) WoW is not the only game to have a variety of mounts available.
    This is a Final Fantasy game first, an MMO second.

    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    2) You run out of chocobo colors and then what?
    Who gives a shit? Better than seeing a ton of different obnoxious mounts like in WoW. That fact sickened me (and that's coming from someone who had almost every single mount in the game). You can have TONS of different chocobo colours and colour variations, and you could customize armor for the chocobos too. The possibilities are endless. Don't think in a closed box.

    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    3) Chocobo raising was terrible in implementation and concept. To reiterate: You do not design a system to waste an entire month's worth of the player's time to get only a chocobo that has less stamina and runs slower than the rentals and is temperamental as all hell.
    You can implement chocobo breeding differently than what was presented in XI and without making it as much of a total timesink, and make them more easily obtainable. Perhaps through quests or through a system similar to FF9 after raising your chocobo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjain View Post
    This is a Final Fantasy game first, an MMO second.
    This mistake was already done in XI, and we have screwed up party mechanics and a couple of other things as a result of not deciding what stays and what goes in the transition into MMO.
    Who gives a shit? Better than seeing a ton of different obnoxious mounts like in WoW. That fact sickened me (and that's coming from someone who had almost every single mount in the game). You can have TONS of different chocobo colours and colour variations, and you could customize armor for the chocobos too. The possibilities are endless. Don't think in a closed box.
    No need to take that tone.

    Also, limiting yourself only to chocobo makes you the close-minded one. I'm trying to think of what else could be implemented to help fill the gap, specially taking into account a world that is bigger and justifies the need for player-owned mounts. XI didn't have that because a rental chocobo could get you around for the most part. You could limit yourself to one animal because the game was not designed around player-owned mounts.
    You can implement chocobo breeding differently than what was presented in XI and without making it as much of a total timesink, and make them more easily obtainable. Perhaps through quests or through a system similar to FF9 after raising your chocobo.
    You're still limited to one animal. Variety is not a bad thing to have.
    Quote Originally Posted by DeadlySwordz View Post
    ....next thing someone will bring up is wanting to implement flying mounts (in FF, no thanks, lol)
    Black Chocobo.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Aren't the Dunesfolk Lalafel supposed to live in houses on top of Goobues?

    I am a (tail-less) Galka so I doubt I could fit in the house but I could probably ride one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    1) WoW is not the only game to have a variety of mounts available.
    yes i know there are possibly hundreds/thousands of MMO's that have a variety of mounts. but in the Final Fantasy Universe, chocobos were the main means of transportation......next thing someone will bring up is wanting to implement flying mounts (in FF, no thanks, lol)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadlySwordz View Post
    yes i know there are possibly hundreds/thousands of MMO's that have a variety of mounts. but in the Final Fantasy Universe, chocobos were the main means of transportation......next thing someone will bring up is wanting to implement flying mounts (in FF, no thanks, lol)
    I think Chocobos should be the staple mount, but I don't see what is wrong with maybe a few others. But I would be happy with just chocobos anyway, as long as there is a diverse array of sub-species within the chocobo genus. For example, in FFXIII there were the Coccoon Chocobos and then there was the Gran Pulse Chocobos. They were two separate and distinctive breeds. Something like that in FFXIV would be cool.

    Different beaks, different sizes, different coats/feathers, different muscle tone, claws, facial features, wings. And then further ability to customise the mount with a variety of armour would be cool.

    I don't think anyone would begrudge an MMO for only having Chocobos if there was such a huge diversity of chocobos available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vesperia View Post
    I think Chocobos should be the staple mount, but I don't see what is wrong with maybe a few others. But I would be happy with just chocobos anyway, as long as there is a diverse array of sub-species within the chocobo genus. For example, in FFXIII there were the Coccoon Chocobos and then there was the Gran Pulse Chocobos. They were two separate and distinctive breeds. Something like that in FFXIV would be cool.

    Different beaks, different sizes, different coats/feathers, different muscle tone, claws, facial features, wings. And then further ability to customise the mount with a variety of armour would be cool.

    I don't think anyone would begrudge an MMO for only having Chocobos if there was such a huge diversity of chocobos available.
    I like this idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vesperia View Post
    Different beaks, different sizes, different coats/feathers, different muscle tone, claws, facial features, wings. And then further ability to customise the mount with a variety of armour would be cool.

    I don't think anyone would begrudge an MMO for only having Chocobos if there was such a huge diversity of chocobos available.
    this i wouldn't think anyone would have a problem with. but from what the OP said, it seems he wants totally different mounts other than just chocobos. anything else other than chocobos, i don't think would fit to be in the game. but this is just my and a few others opinions
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadlySwordz View Post
    this i wouldn't think anyone would have a problem with. but from what the OP said, it seems he wants totally different mounts other than just chocobos. anything else other than chocobos, i don't think would fit to be in the game. but this is just my and a few others opinions
    I'm fine with chocobo being part of the mount system. In fact, I'd be happy to see different types of chocobo. I simply want available mounts to be expanded beyond chocobo instead of chocobo and only chocobo.

    My bigger concern with all this is distribution. Again, I'm not too fond of chocobo breeding, and I don't see a way you could distribute all those chocobo variations.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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