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    Maybe it's just lag!

    A display of video lag due to lack of PC performance.

    I post this due to the increasing toxicity we see in the game aimed at player skill. Consider that players may not have serious money invested in their PC, this doesn't make them retarded or stupid or any of the other colorful terms we see every time someone is hit by "Weight of the Land".

    What they see is different from what you see. In this video:

    Processor: AMD Phenom II Quad Core 3.6 GHz
    Video: Nvidia Geforce GT 520
    8 GB Ram

    To avoid downtime:

    0:00 - 4:00- Opening comments
    8:15 - 10:00- A clear display of NPCs loading and icon updating delay.
    14:30- Display of what Titan looks like on a low performance PC and some tips to get around these issues.

    http://www.twitch.tv/jonny_tapas/c/3128803
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    If your PC is so slow that it's stops you from being able to perform basic maneuvers in the game then you should either upgrade or not play. Period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivik View Post
    If your PC is so slow that it's stops you from being able to perform basic maneuvers in the game then you should either upgrade or not play. Period.
    Immediate example of Toxicity. Thank you!

    So people with separate financial priorities should not be able to enjoy FFXIV ARR? I'm sure that is exactly what SE had in mind for their game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonny_Tapas View Post
    Immediate example of Toxicity. Thank you!

    So people with separate financial priorities should not be able to enjoy FFXIV ARR? I'm sure that is exactly what SE had in mind for their game.
    I feel for you, but at the sametime, I can't help it but thinking like this -- You bring a squirt gun into a paintball game, ill-equipped because of your financial problem, you are teaching others how to dodge paintballs while pelting people to death with that squirt gun... it takes real skill, props to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nekochen View Post
    I feel for you, but at the sametime, I can't help it but thinking like this -- You bring a squirt gun into a paintball game, ill-equipped because of your financial problem, you are teaching others how to dodge paintballs while pelting people to death with that squirt gun... it takes real skill, props to you.
    Thanks and trust me I want a beast of a PC! I really do... but the wife needs a new purse, my children like to eat... Everything works better with the electric bill paid. As soon as I'm satisfied that my family is taken care of... maybe Daddy will get an upgrade.

    FF is certainly my favorite past time... But it is a past time and has to fall in line when it comes to real priorities.

    My hopes for this video was to help people in my situation keep their heads up... progression can be done, and also to help the community understand that the guy who just got hit by landslide is most likely not retarded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonny_Tapas View Post
    Immediate example of Toxicity. Thank you!

    So people with separate financial priorities should not be able to enjoy FFXIV ARR? I'm sure that is exactly what SE had in mind for their game.
    GOod point on the toxic player comment, but....

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivik View Post
    I think someone joining a group with a PC like yours is far more toxic to the community. Making other people pick up the slack because of your inability to avoid damage in a group setting is unfair to the people that get stuck with you in DF or shouts.
    Has a valid point as well, if you are hindering other players, maybe you shouldnt pug stuff and ruin other players gameplay, you should prolly do Duty Finder stuff with your friends or FC members that are willing to deal with your lag issues ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceelo_Mage View Post
    GOod point on the toxic player comment, but....



    Has a valid point as well, if you are hindering other players, maybe you shouldnt pug stuff and ruin other players gameplay, you should prolly do Duty Finder stuff with your friends or FC members that are willing to deal with your lag issues ?
    Except his post was more of a PSA. He stated numerous times he doesn't have issues. He was merely showing what he sees. He's memorized titan's rotations so he succeeds by pre-moving. He knows when Weight of the sand drops for instance. He also moves when he see's titan turning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceelo_Mage View Post
    Has a valid point as well, if you are hindering other players, maybe you shouldnt pug stuff and ruin other players gameplay, you should prolly do Duty Finder stuff with your friends or FC members that are willing to deal with your lag issues ?
    Good point but...

    Watching the video or reading through the topic would have shown that in no way was any players game ruined or hindered. I simply displayed lag and how to deal with it.

    For some reason some of you think I'm here to say: "I'm bad because I have lag issues!" as an excuse.

    No.

    I'm here to say: "PC performance can cause lag issues. Here's a video with some examples and here's some things you can do to overcome."

    The one mechanic I was hit by was on purpose to display what happens if I don't react pre-emptively. It was a display not a derp, and none of this is an excuse. I'm not looking for sympathy... hell I'm not even looking for respect.

    What I would like to see however is a general absence of disrespect and verbal abuse that has become all too common.
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    Last edited by Jonny_Tapas; 10-24-2013 at 02:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceelo_Mage View Post
    Has a valid point as well, if you are hindering other players, maybe you shouldnt pug stuff and ruin other players gameplay, you should prolly do Duty Finder stuff with your friends or FC members that are willing to deal with your lag issues ?
    Heaven forbid someone struggle in this game and people help them instead of excluding them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivik View Post
    I think someone joining a group with a PC like yours is far more toxic to the community. Making other people pick up the slack because of your inability to avoid damage in a group setting is unfair to the people that get stuck with you in DF or shouts.
    You can't be serious.
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