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    Maybe it's just lag!

    A display of video lag due to lack of PC performance.

    I post this due to the increasing toxicity we see in the game aimed at player skill. Consider that players may not have serious money invested in their PC, this doesn't make them retarded or stupid or any of the other colorful terms we see every time someone is hit by "Weight of the Land".

    What they see is different from what you see. In this video:

    Processor: AMD Phenom II Quad Core 3.6 GHz
    Video: Nvidia Geforce GT 520
    8 GB Ram

    To avoid downtime:

    0:00 - 4:00- Opening comments
    8:15 - 10:00- A clear display of NPCs loading and icon updating delay.
    14:30- Display of what Titan looks like on a low performance PC and some tips to get around these issues.

    http://www.twitch.tv/jonny_tapas/c/3128803
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    If your PC is so slow that it's stops you from being able to perform basic maneuvers in the game then you should either upgrade or not play. Period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivik View Post
    If your PC is so slow that it's stops you from being able to perform basic maneuvers in the game then you should either upgrade or not play. Period.
    Immediate example of Toxicity. Thank you!

    So people with separate financial priorities should not be able to enjoy FFXIV ARR? I'm sure that is exactly what SE had in mind for their game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonny_Tapas View Post
    A display of video lag due to lack of PC performance.

    I post this due to the increasing toxicity we see in the game aimed at player skill. Consider that players may not have serious money invested in their PC, this doesn't make them retarded or stupid or any of the other colorful terms we see every time someone is hit by "Weight of the Land".

    http://www.twitch.tv/jonny_tapas/c/3128803
    The real problem is I have a high end gaming pc and it isn't that much different. My room to move is faster than yours but not by much. If there's so much of a .5 second hesitation I get hit. Even with a really really good pc. Honestly how you're playing is pretty much what people need to do in titan regardless of pc level. Learn the rotations and begin to act in advance rather than after. The delay effects everyone. Maybe not to the exact degree but titan really shows everyone that it's there. The delay is something I'd like to see fixed.

    Seems you get hit even if you don't have that .5 second delay in reacting. Even if you react instantly if it's under you it's under you but as mentioned. The delay here is the problem. More so than lag or low end pc's. Glad you posted this video hopefully SE can look at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivik View Post
    If your PC is so slow that it's stops you from being able to perform basic maneuvers in the game then you should either upgrade or not play. Period.


    The requirements are there for a reason, but as I can see, OP has an "adequate" PC. If he shouldn't be playing with his config, then the minimum requirements must be changed.
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    Yes unfortunately I don't believe there is a fix for it. Ping can not be erased which is what players with a high end PC experience. Video lag is an addition to ping which is what players with a lower end PC experience.

    Truth is if you want a game with good graphics then you have to deal with these things. My PC does need an upgrade as Vivik mentions. But I do deserve to play in the meantime and I will surely upgrade the moment that is a real life option.

    Lag has not stopped me from completing any content I've tried. It simply puts me in a position to have to work a little harder for some things.

    Yet along the way I hear: "Just dodge it, it's easy!" or "How can you not see that?"

    Of course I see it! ... A split second too late, on occasion not at all.

    The other unfortunate here is players use "Lag" as an excuse for absolutely everything... So when it really is "lag" some of us that lack humanity immediately toss that idea and feel the need to degrade someone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonny_Tapas View Post
    Yes unfortunately I don't believe there is a fix for it. Ping can not be erased which is what players with a high end PC experience. Video lag is an addition to ping which is what players with a lower end PC experience.
    Agreed. Another example along those lines was in AK. I had a tank that everyone was bashing. Was saying was terrible etc. He stated he was lagging. They said "No you need to learn to play." Then I pointed out "Tank isn't lying. I saw the disconnect symbol 4 times." Someone else confirmed that they did as well. He begged everyone to wait while he tried some things to fix his connection. He succeeded and the run was smooth after that. Point is, sometimes it really is lag/latency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonny_Tapas View Post
    Immediate example of Toxicity. Thank you!

    So people with separate financial priorities should not be able to enjoy FFXIV ARR? I'm sure that is exactly what SE had in mind for their game.
    I feel for you, but at the sametime, I can't help it but thinking like this -- You bring a squirt gun into a paintball game, ill-equipped because of your financial problem, you are teaching others how to dodge paintballs while pelting people to death with that squirt gun... it takes real skill, props to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nekochen View Post
    I feel for you, but at the sametime, I can't help it but thinking like this -- You bring a squirt gun into a paintball game, ill-equipped because of your financial problem, you are teaching others how to dodge paintballs while pelting people to death with that squirt gun... it takes real skill, props to you.
    Thanks and trust me I want a beast of a PC! I really do... but the wife needs a new purse, my children like to eat... Everything works better with the electric bill paid. As soon as I'm satisfied that my family is taken care of... maybe Daddy will get an upgrade.

    FF is certainly my favorite past time... But it is a past time and has to fall in line when it comes to real priorities.

    My hopes for this video was to help people in my situation keep their heads up... progression can be done, and also to help the community understand that the guy who just got hit by landslide is most likely not retarded.
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    You are a piece of work. I am glad I am on another server. I agree with OP too many people like you make the communities on this game toxic.
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