Why the lack of courage?

[legendarytoyou]

I've noticed over the course of three or four days a disturbing trend; after one wipe on a HM boss via Duty Finder people chicken out and leave. Mind you most of the HM Primals are easy (save Titan but that's what I like about it; it's challenging) but even after one screw up or badly timed LB by someone everyone seems to lose their spine and run out. Even when it's looking promising.

Like not long ago I decided to try my luck on DF Titan HM. The only problem we had was the timing; one more try probably would've done the trick. Instead everyone just lost their nerve and quit out after only 4 wipes D:<. I've been in progression raiding from WoW, CoX, SWtor (what little there is >,<) and Everquest. I've learned that wipes come with the territory. It's a part of the raiding experience.

I guess what I'm saying is that people shouldn't get discouraged because they didn't one shot it. Stay committed, don't give up and keep trying. Luck favors those that take the highest risks.

[Veurr]

Putting regular difficulty content on a raid finder is a bad idea. Your raid finder raids need

[Veurr]

Putting regular difficulty content on a raid finder is a bad idea. Your raid finder raids need

Stupid phone. Your raid finder content needs to be killable when less thant 10% of the group knows how to play their class and execute the encounter.

[Horg]

It's a part of the raiding experience.

If you are using DF it is not considered "the raiding experience", it's considered hoping and praying that 6/8 of the people are competent. If you want the raiding experience join a LS/FC.

[MXMoondoggie]

People generally in MMO's want to win right away and don't want to work on it. Even if you are a run that is getting better every try people don't want to keep pushing and win they'd rather start over for some reason and get back to people screwing up early on. Just a general sense of entitlement that people have and they feel that everything must be perfect. Seen people leave after a single wipe plenty of times.

[Garnatian]

After running the same content 100s of times and you still see the same mistakes over and over, you know what's going to happen, nothing.

[DragonHunterG]

i would say it's not courage but stamina to stay the course. after wiping so many times, it gets very tiring and most people will just want to move on, take a break and do something else for a while.

[avecha]

Maybe they are worried about being treated like shit by other players.

[Raminax]

I'll admit it's pretty annoying, too. Though it's even more annoying to get something like two Bards as DPS in Amdapor Keep and then both of them going "omgwtf no dps limit break we screwed yo", conveniently ignoring their Ifrit/Garuda bows which they have in 90% of the cases. -_-

Same deal with Garuda. Just Final Heaven one damned clone and burn the other down if you can't have Meteor. I've heard that Ifrit's Hellfire can be survived with a Last Bastion too.

[Archona]

Because there is no reason to be wiping in DF HM Primals anymore. The state of endgame is not what it was a month or so ago. EVERYBODY has Relic Wpns and Coil gear, there should be no excessive wiping in HM Ifrit/Garuda anymore. Maybe you are late to the scene but when the frontier of progression has long passed, the tolerance for wipes go down. The good players slowly disappear from the DF and what you are left with is a cesspool of bad and inexperienced players. People who have been downing these bosses for over a month have no wish to wipe again and again. The people who need these bosses killed usually find local premades through shout chat or FC/LS chat, and only bad unsocial casuals use the DF and expect victory.