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    Player Andrien's Avatar
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    Andrien Bellcross
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50

    Paladin and Raise during combat.

    I think the Paladin job should be able to cast Raise during combat.

    There can be times when the healers are dead in an instance battle due to AOE etc, and the Paladin in the group is unable to save the party because they can't cast Raise during combat.

    Trust me, these things happen. You could be forced to wipe, and restart the battle because of this.

    Players, Square Enix, what is your thoughts on this? Discuss below.
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    konflikti's Avatar
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    Raimo Lihas
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 50
    I personally think everyone should be able to use resurrection item with 5-15m cooldown during combat. No reason to limit it to PLD alone.
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    Khojinn Kha
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    Midgardsormr
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    Maybe they can make certain traits cross class. Since PLD uses CNJ and MRD for cross class, they could allow us to make use of maybe 1 or 2 cross class traits so that we can use combat raise from CNJ. This of course would mean that the PLD would need their CNJ high enough to have learned the trait, but it would give PLD the ability to raise in combat.
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    Mtoto_Wamoto's Avatar
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    Khojinn Kha
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    Also, why give us phoenix down and the GC raise potions if we can't use them in combat? The application and use of those items is severely limited and makes them more of a novelty item, imo.
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    Amas Naya
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    What then? Give everyone comfy pillows to sit on while they rationally argue with monsters until they decide to give you their loot and go home?

    Wipes happen. Deal with it.

    WHM, SCH, and SMN can all raise during battle. If you're worried about a wipe because your healer(s) died, take a SMN DPS.

    Content is already easy enough, we don't need SE to go and make it any easier.
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    Raimo Lihas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amas View Post
    What then? Give everyone comfy pillows to sit on while they rationally argue with monsters until they decide to give you their loot and go home?

    Wipes happen. Deal with it.

    WHM, SCH, and SMN can all raise during battle. If you're worried about a wipe because your healer(s) died, take a SMN DPS.

    Content is already easy enough, we don't need SE to go and make it any easier.
    Being able to ress people during combat with an item does not make the content any easier, it just gives you chance to recover from mistakes. You could even make the content harder because of there being additional ways to recover.
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    Ritz Blitz
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    As a Paladin, there have been times I wished I could have been more helpful and raised my healer after they fell. However, I don't think Paladins should be able to raise during combat. It would make the combat easier. Yes, content could be adjusted to be more difficult, but that would take a lot of time because everything is currently balanced around having only WHM/SCH/SMN raise during combat.
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    Mazus Valefor
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    Diabolos
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    PLD with a combat raise, just another thing to give warriors to cry about. I am going to say no to this idea. Currently healers can raise enough as is.
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    Masterdarkjedi Cerberus
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    Quote Originally Posted by konflikti View Post
    I personally think everyone should be able to use resurrection item with 5-15m cooldown during combat. No reason to limit it to PLD alone.
    Then it would me more like WoW lol
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    D'momo Pascal
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jediman View Post
    Then it would me more like WoW lol
    But items aren't spammable, there's a long enough cooldown to make it a viable alternative for good parties to be able to recover from random screw ups that aren't entirely fatal. I mean, PLD for example has Hallowed Ground. It's mostly a useless skill as it's only utility is if the healer stops healing you, or the healers need a break to raise someone else. If all the healers are dead, why can I not use this skill to give me the opportunity to pick back up a healer safely to allow the party to recover? And it has a long cooldown so it's not like it's going to save me more than once in any fight.
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