Crafting HQ (LVL 50 Weaver Rotation Help)

[Eiai]

Changed the question. Really need help crafting HQ Vanya, since HQ Vanya is the only one that's worth it.

[Vortok]

Changed the question. Really need help crafting HQ Vanya, since HQ Vanya is the only one that's worth it.

Depends a lot on your stats/how much you are willing to meld. A lot of the cost of melding is from two main things. The Control 3 materia, which is a frontloaded cost as it's usually one of the first things you meld in, and all the overmelding on accessories.

For 1 star and 2 star crafts, Ingenuity is extremely recommended. To give you an idea, so you won't have to experiment as much, without it up your synth actions will give you roughly 55% of what they'd give with it active. Your touch/BB actions will be decreased by 25% (5% per level the craft is above you, capped at 25%). Between the two 'penalties' for crafting something above your level you can see how things can get rough in a hurry. Generally used at the end of a craft (for your final Great Strides touch + synth actions) as always putting it up throughout usually costs too much CP + the steps it wastes while other buffs are up (depends on your rotation, of course).

One thing that might be helpful to know, is that Ingenuity sets the recipe level for the duration of the buff, even if used on a lower level recipe. You could use that to test on cheap crafts to figure out how much progress you'll get with your synth actions to plan out how many you'll need to do for Vanya - likely 3 Careful Synth IIs. Standard Synth may also be an option (or even a combination of the two) though it does have a CP cost to consider + having SH still active. For the 2 star 40 Durability mats you'll likely need 2 Synth actions - the craftsmanship required to one shot it using Standard Synthesis without Ingenuity II is around 358, which is likely out of reach at the moment.

For your current setup (didn't list Control/Craft/CP), you'd probably have to use Hasty Touch (SH II is highly recommended again). Starting with as many HQ mats as possible is also recommended, especially since Hasty Touch can be a bit random. Figure out what you want for your ending rotation and the CP costs (so you won't blow up the craft) and work backwards from there. Tricks of the Trade is also incredibly useful when using a Hasty Touch method as more CP = more actions = more chances to buff Inner Quiet and your final Byregot's Blessing. For the same reasons, CP food is a strong pick.

As the progress/quality 'penalties' are the same for 1 star and 2 star, you could practice on the much cheaper one star crafts and just be aware of the slightly longer quality bar that 2 stars have (HQ mats help there) + the extra progress you'll need to get from synth actions.

[Githiun]

IMO from someone who just crafted their first Vanya item a short time ago.

You really should get Culinary to 37 for Steady Hand 2. get Tricks of the Trade. And Carpenter to 50 for Byregots Blessing.

And just as some others have said this is my Rotation:

40 Durability:
Inner Quiet
Steady HandII
Waste Not
Hasty
Hasty
Hasty
Hasty
Careful Synth 2 (this will take you to 30 Durability)
Rumination
Steady HandII
Waste Not
Hasty
Hasty
Hasty
Hasty (depending on quality level I would pop Byregots Blessing here to guarantee a success. It has a 10% chance to fail and that 10% feels more like 90%)
>Depending on your CP level you should be able to pop anotherWaste Not to finish off your Durability.

What I didn't realize is it was very hard to get HQ on the thread part. But even with NQ materials going into the final combination if you just use 2 HQ Twinthreads(or whatever it's called) that added 800 leaving only 2100 quality needed. 2100 quality on an 80 durability should be very easy.

My rotation on 80 durability is very similar to 40 except I do not rumination between the hasties. Just do two rotations of IQ/SH2/HT4 which will leave you at 40 durability. Then you can decide what to do from there.