Myth after +1 Relic WHM

[Rbstr]

With the Philo I spend on the DL chest I can get my fill of accessories and the Vanya hat. That's why I think it's much more efficient. I fiddled with the spreadsheet.

With 900myth and 1320 philo for the cowl and 1+ I gain 27 points over current (notable is a loss of 25 SS and 5 pie but a gain of 32det)

For 825 myth and 1125 philo (and $ for the Vanya hat) for AF2 chest and 3 DL accs I gain 116 points. There's over 3x as much mind gained (37 vs 11) as the alternative and 38 pie. Though no det gain really.

It all adds up to a gain of 10 hp/s if I don't +1.

[jumpypuppet]

anyone have a similar spreadsheet for sch?

currently i have relic +1 and full DL except for astral ring (later tonight), vanya robe and vanya hat. i'm thinking of saving up for the AF2 pants first since AF2 pants have lots of crit and DL--> AF2 seems like a bigger upgrade than vanya robe or hat --> af2 robe or hat.

only problem with getting pants first is that they have identical stats to allagan pants so if they were to drop i could potentially be wasting 3 weeks' worth of tomes. any input?

[Staris]

one thing i did not see considered was Allagan drops.
If your clearing coil 1-4 you can get anything except a second ring and legs.

So +1 / Legs / Ring. seems ideal first. Otherwise risk wasting drops.

[Alkimi]

only problem with getting pants first is that they have identical stats to allagan pants so if they were to drop i could potentially be wasting 3 weeks' worth of tomes. any input?

Healer pants drop from Turn 5 and nobody's beaten it (legitimately) yet. Personally so far I've got +1 relic, waist and legs, I like the benefit of more HP, especially for Turn 5 attempts.

[jumpypuppet]

Healer pants drop from Turn 5 and nobody's beaten it (legitimately) yet. Personally so far I've got +1 relic, waist and legs, I like the benefit of more HP, especially for Turn 5 attempts.

so you do think that saving up for the pants to go from DL --> AF2 beats saving up for the chest since vanya->AF2 is a weaker upgrade? and saving for pants beats getting multiple smaller pieces (replace darklight neck/ring etc with hero's)?

[Seezur_Undies]

SO i am in all HQ Vanya/Rose Gold/Astral gear (ilvl 70) minus the pants (they are demague..i think that is how they are spelled) and a DL ring, i was thinking of getting the pants after my +1 because from what i hear they only drop in turn 5 and well no one has ever beat turn 5, is that a bad idea?

[Yoruichii]

so with legs dropping for turn 5 its safest to get legs and ring first before anything else since you can get upgrades from turns 1-4?

[FinagleABagel]

Unless you *really* care about min/maxing, it doesn't matter one freaking bit. The coil gear checks up to Turn 5 shouldn't require anything over a Relic + DL as a healer.

If you care about min/maxing, I'd focus on the drop charts. If it doesn't drop in T1/T2, prioritize it. Add in T4 if you have a group that can clear it.