For those that keep asking "Why the **** do you play on PS3!?!?"

[erikdaae]

you will need a pc or may be a keyboard for your ps3 if you ever want to touch end game content. Yes, a keyboard help a lot.

im a ps3 player & i dont use keyboard for coil
i do have a keyboard but it is mainly use for fc/pt chat

[Sterob]

im a ps3 player & i dont use keyboard for coil
i do have a keyboard but it is mainly use for fc/pt chat

did you ever try using it?

[erikdaae]

i only use keyboard for fc/pt chat

[Sixmp]

did you ever try using it?

Have you ever tried it with pad?

[Sterob]

Have you ever tried it with pad?

tried with xbox pad, not enough key to press/ easiser to screw up, awkward targeting (you have to cycle through the entire list instead of just using the mouse to click) which make it extremely annoying for last phase nox in turn 4.

[Sixmp]

tried with xbox pad, not enough key to press/ easiser to screw up, awkward targeting (you have to cycle through the entire list instead of just using the mouse to click) which make it extremely annoying for last phase nox in turn 4.

I play with pad. There are plenty of spaces, i admit targeting does take a little practice BUT you can filter out NPCs, Other players etc so you just go through a list of enemies. That simple fact means you can easily be on the correct target just as fast as anyone with mouse. Also there is less chance of messing up due to moving targets. I played MMO's for years with mouse and kb and i would have agreed with you on most other games but FFXI and FFXIV ARR both play just as good on either M&K and Pad.
It is just down to the user.

[Sterob]

I play with pad. There are plenty of spaces, i admit targeting does take a little practice BUT you can filter out NPCs, Other players etc so you just go through a list of enemies. That simple fact means you can easily be on the correct target just as fast as anyone with mouse. Also there is less chance of messing up due to moving targets. I played MMO's for years with mouse and kb and i would have agreed with you on most other games but FFXI and FFXIV ARR both play just as good on either M&K and Pad.
It is just down to the user.

I was talking about selecting a specific mob that need to be tagged, killed asap or wipe; inside a cluster of 8 other mobs. So no NPC filter can help you.

[Gilraen]

I was talking about selecting a specific mob that need to be tagged, killed asap or wipe; inside a cluster of 8 other mobs. So no NPC filter can help you.

That's as simple as pressing left or right on the d-pad or tapping L2 and L1. As has been said, controllers are not harder to use. I played every phase of the Beta and hated mouse targeting, half the time I would be clicking the tank or the DD than the intended mob. When they restored controllers I was on that like white on rice and haven't looked back since. Yes, I used a controller in 1.0. An old Logitech Dual Action. Used it for the Beta, too, with no issues. Once the game hit the PS3 I moved to that without hesitation and have yet to have a problem that isn't a problem shared by the PC (occasional rare freezing when logging out).

[Sixmp]

I was talking about selecting a specific mob that need to be tagged, killed asap or wipe; inside a cluster of 8 other mobs. So no NPC filter can help you.

You presume that your mouse placement will be good in this example you give. What if your mouse pointer can't even select the right mob as the other mobs are blocking it. You see i too can come up with various situations where things will not be 100% perfect. It doesn't mean that Pad works and if you actually read this thread you would see that there are people are stating that it works perfectly fine.