For those that keep asking "Why the **** do you play on PS3!?!?"

[CatholicFan]

I play cross-platform. I leveled up mostly on my PS3, but now I mostly use that for gathering.

As I see it, pros/cons of each:

PC
+ More shortcuts available on the hotbar.
+ Quicker target selection with mouse if needed.
+ Quicker drop-targeting AOE reticles with mouse.
+ More options for play-style (kb/mouse;controller;monitor;tv;etc.).
+ Potentially higher graphics settings.
+ Ease of VoIP use.
- Expensive real-life investment.
- Potential for occasional hardware/software issues.

PS3:
+ Cheaper real-life investment.
+ Game optimized for the system.
+ More potential for comfortable play-style (some people can't/won't setup their PC's in a living room).
- VoIP require 2nd device.
- Lower graphics settings.
- Locked into crossbar usage.
- Keyboard use potentially more awkward.
- Requires tab-targeting.
- Slow/awkward drop targeting.

Some of those items are personal. You might be a pro at drop targeting your aoe reticle; I could never get used to it in 50 levels. You might have an awesome PC room with super comfortable chairs that blow away your living room. Who knows. I think there is greater potential with the PC, and that's absolutely part of the design philosophy of this game. PS3 always will be the lowest common denominator when it comes to designing mechanics and game architecture. I think PC users should be thrilled the team is supposedly building a Direct X 11 version of the game, as it will give people who love making high-end PC's something to go crazy with. You should never need a high-end system, though, to tackle any game's mechanics. That would just be poor design from the start, as there would be much too small of a market for the product.

Overall, I think SE has done a smart thing by catering to multiple audiences. I believe we will run into far fewer "PS3 limitations" problems over the next few years than we ever did with XI. Even many of those issues were worked out by the development teams in time.

To be perfectly frank, the people that are screaming about the PS3 holding the game back strike me as the kind of players that will move on to a new games quite quickly because newer games will likely be "better" in the ways they seem to care about. Fighting to keep such people in the game may be an exercise in futility.

[Soukyuu]

tried with xbox pad, not enough key to press/ easiser to screw up, awkward targeting (you have to cycle through the entire list instead of just using the mouse to click) which make it extremely annoying for last phase nox in turn 4.

Mouse clicking is extremely glitchy, you have to hold your mouse perfectly still when clicking or it turns into a sliding click and ignores you trying to target. I've been playing mouse+kb before switching back to gamepad and to be honest targeting isn't perfect with either.

[Gilraen]

Well, if being on a PC is a 'basic requirement' then why is it we see the devs playing on PS3s every time there's a Live Letter? Clearly they must know they are 'doing it wrong', it's their game. Or... There's going to be bad players on both consoles but we on the PS3 don't condemn the whole of the PC community over their bad players, why must you condemn the whole of us over the same? I think that's called a 'double standard'? As is evident, there are alot of good PS3 players to offset the bad, just as there is on the PC. Instead of being short-sighted why not expand your view and accept what you see instead of what you 'see'. That or turn your monitor brightness down and take off the sunglasses.

[Ralemont]

Voice chat is nice but by no means required. Required: Competent players that now how to play their jobs and the strat of the dungeon.

Also at cool story guy face-palming a bard not bar'ing his LB: Clearly that guy not having it on his bar is why you wiped.

[kollwitz]

sorry guys, but i rather spend my money on records and weekend long drug binges in german underground techno clubs than staring at a mi'qote ass in HD resolution.. :\

[Lelouch001]

Well at least this thread proved one thing, and its that ps3 players are no better than the people they complain about.

[Ryios]

Whats not to like about playing games on my PC. I lay in bed with a wireless keyboard/mouse and a controller just like someone on a PS3. I have a 50" HDTV I play on just like someone on a PS3. PC's have this awesome thing on new graphics cards called an HDMI Port. They also have this weird audio thingy called the Line Out Jack. Oh and let's not forget the Blue Tooth controller thingy that keyboard can talk to and or the 20 usb ports it has to PS3's 2 where I can use a controller adapter to use my PS3 Controller on my PC.

Just because you play on a PC doesn't mean your sitting in a chair at some desk hunched over with a screen 2 inches from your face.

Half the problem with people playing games like this is about 25% of the gaming community is technological smart (builds their own pc's, can write computer programs and app's for phones etc etc), and the other 75% does work in life where they don't know much about technology but are 100% dependent on it. So you have a group of people that has their stuff tweaked to perfection trying to play peacefully with a group of people who just plugs everything in to the color coded jacks and hopes it all works.

When I encounter people lagging badly, and moving funny, I try to help them configure their stuff better, but am generally met with "This is how I like to play, the server's lagging not me (partially true but not 100% true), don't tell me how to play the game etc etc so I just give up and run with people who don't lag and tell me they play with WAS and the mouse to move the camera"

PS3 and PS4 basically are PC's. They are computers in closed boxes with controlled hardware and a customized OS. That's all they are. Except said closed box is old enough that current PC's Blow them Away.

[AdvancedWind]

Half the problem with people playing games like this is about 25% of the gaming community is technological smart (builds their own pc's, can write computer programs and app's for phones etc etc), and the other 75% does work in life where they don't know much about technology but are 100% dependent on it.

Did you know that 94% of all statistics are made up on the spot?

[Skullcrusher]

When I encounter people lagging badly, and moving funny, I try to help them configure their stuff better, but am generally met with "This is how I like to play, the server's lagging not me (partially true but not 100% true), don't tell me how to play the game etc etc so I just give up and run with people who don't lag and tell me they play with WAS and the mouse to move the camera"

PS3 and PS4 basically are PC's. They are computers in closed boxes with controlled hardware and a customized OS. That's all they are. Except said closed box is old enough that current PC's Blow them Away.

Exactly mate. Its no wonder why mmo's are going down the gurgler. The ppl in this thread are testimony to that. " dont need vent " " dont tell me how to .." " i do what i want " ....etc

NO YOU WILL NOT DO WHAT YOU WANT if you run with me in hard content. You either use vent to hear whats going on so we dont waste time or you dont play with me.
When i played wow, it was our requirement. No vent, no raid....Why should it be any different in any progressional mmo?
I say hi in a dungeon, you remain silent and clearly have no idea what you are doing...I try to explain, you keep doing it, i leave, find another tank...

[Aerostein]

Exactly mate. Its no wonder why mmo's are going down the gurgler. The ppl in this thread are testimony to that. " dont need vent " " dont tell me how to .." " i do what i want " ....etc

NO YOU WILL NOT DO WHAT YOU WANT if you run with me in hard content. You either use vent to hear whats going on so we dont waste time or you dont play with me.
When i played wow, it was our requirement. No vent, no raid....Why should it be any different in any progressional mmo?
I say hi in a dungeon, you remain silent and clearly have no idea what you are doing...I try to explain, you keep doing it, i leave, find another tank...

To be fair, this ain't WoW. Also the reverse could be said as well about why MMOs are in the 'gurgler'. Just saying.