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    Sam-urai's Avatar
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    Vincent Law
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    Malboro
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    Arcanist Lv 50

    Dungeons, HM's and the inevitable Lag monster

    I know there is probably a ton of threads complaining about the lag in this game and how much more difficult it makes it to dodge AoE attacks. For the most part it isn't a HUGE issue for me as I have a rather big tolerance for kinks like this and I don't tend to get frustrated as much as most people. HOWEVER, a few of my RL friends are not so tolerant.

    I played some 1.0 and that really tried my patience lol, but SE fine tuned and listened to the community and now we have ARR which is amazing! All my friends agree, we have been playing MMO's for a good 5-6 years together and they followed me to FFXIV:ARR once I told them they fixed (nearly) EVERYTHING that was wrong with 1.0. They enjoy the game and have proceeded to level multiple jobs, one has even surpassed me in 1/3 of the time lol! However they are starting to get frustrated with the lag on certain boss fights.
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    Vincent Law
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    We have yet to hit 50, and try HM's... but from all the complaints we continuously see about the lag, I am starting to get a little concerned that some of my friends may stop playing all together because of the frustration. They are by no means beginners, as stated before we have been playing together across several mmo's and have successfully done most end game content in the past. So most people probably can see where their frustration may stem from.

    Constantly getting hit by something that can be avoided and THOUGHT to be avoided can really harm a persons desire to play. I tried hard to get my friends over to FFXIV:ARR and now they are finally here and love it, but I sense that will only last if this issue is addressed in the near future. I may be a fan boy, but a concerned fan boy. The sky isn't falling for me, but if my friends leave...
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    Player EmSix's Avatar
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    Em Six
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Unless you have a connection of a player in a third world country, the number of deaths by lag you will experience will be extremely small. There are very few AoEs that have charge times so short that low levels of lag will kill you.
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    Irisa Phoenix
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Titan HM <- 1 hit KO Major Issue
    AK 1st Boss <- Very Minor Issue

    End game dungeons where lag hurts game exceptionally bad.

    So actually it is only Titan HM. Sadly, Titan HM is a major issue in and of itself. Add lag issues to it is rage inducing.
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    Arcana Holo
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    All of you need to actually try, becuz you only see the ppl who have lag and complain, while there are also 1000x players out there without much issue.
    Or you can try to ping the server, I suppose if your ping is under 200 then you should be good (Since I've done Titan with a ping of 180 and I can dodge every landslide just fine).
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    Sam-urai's Avatar
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    Vincent Law
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    I got to hit 50 first and I plan to try no matter how rage inducing it may be :P I am just concerned because I got a couple friends who tend to rage quite a bit when they get hit from AoE due to lag... to the point where they just dont feel like playing even if it doesn't cause a wipe. They get very frustrated because they know they are better than that, guess its an ego thing. So I know that fights like Titan HM will pretty much be a brick wall for some of them if its as much of an issue as I hear it is. I mean they can hardly dodge titan easy mode... so I KNOW they will rage in HM and not even want to do it.
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    Rena Cebe
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    Conjurer Lv 1
    At first I was also getting hit a lot in Titan HM but you learn to dodge it on the spot and be faster. Even during lag spikes you can beat Titan, move before plumes appear, expect the next landslide to target you, etc. etc.
    I'm in EU. A VPN might help. c;
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    Last edited by BunnyChain; 10-23-2013 at 04:36 PM.

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    Minah Saranghae
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyChain View Post
    At first I was also getting hit a lot in Titan HM but you learn to dodge it on the spot and be faster. Even during lag spikes you can beat Titan, move before plumes appear, expect the next landslide to target you, etc. etc.
    I'm in EU. A VPN might help. c;
    We have people who are getting 3-5 sec freezes during peak hours. You can't "learn" to dodge stuff when nothing is moving on your screen for few seconds.
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    Thessina Healsyou
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    Lich
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    Conjurer Lv 49
    I can only agree with OP.
    So far I have managed to live with the aoe-lag during quests and such, but it actually just seems to get worse and worse.
    It is very annyoing to run out of aoe and the second later get hit anyway. I have filed a ticket on it but haven't got any answer yet.
    Last couple of evenings I have done some dungeons, and it is sometimes just horrible. I have experienced lag periods to up to 10 seconds. It is obvious, that I as a healer can't keep the team alive when I have no idea about what is happening. And even if the lagging usually is lower, say about 0.5 - 1 second, it is still way too much to coop with in the long term.
    This MUST be given high priority, or ES will probably lose a lot of players, including me (which would be a shame since the game is so awesome).
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    Squally Hart
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    People who are saying the Latency/Lag in this game are "no big deal" and "not really that bad" are doing a huge disservice to the game. The fact of the matter is, the netcode is terrible and needs to be fixed. THere are too many times when I have run outside of a red zone or a plume, and I have been punished for it. I do not have this problem on any other game I have installed on my computer.

    Why are players saying "It's not an issue" when it clearly is? Or they say "You can compensate for it", when you shouldn't have to?

    The latency in this game on Titan is rage inducing. I already have Relic +1 so I can do it, and have done it, but now that I am gearing my WHM with his relic, I am starting to wonder if the latency in this game is even worth it.

    Your friends are not wrong for not wanting to support a game that is not optimized.
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