Monk Improvements

[Chiraisu]

1. I deduce that Shoulder Tackle is a useful skill as it is right now because I find use for it in almost every level 50 instance.

2. Tell your tank to pull faster.

3. Use Featherfoot and you will get to use Haymaker on things that use melee AOE or cleaves. I use Haymaker on Garuda, in coil, and even on Titan on occasion. It's also a fantastic skill while soloing.

Not sure if you're just trolling or just stupid. Of course shoulder tackle is useful, but 120 second CD is stupid. It's insanely long for what it's design is. In 1.23. it WAS a 45 second CD. What does that tell you?

You can't keep GL3 up in between pulls, period. You can't even keep Gl3 up in between titan's geocrush. 12 second duration doesn't mean you have 12 seconds to refresh. A typical GCD of a monk with GL3 is 2 seconds. possibly 1.95. This is still roughly 2 seconds per hit and you need to hit stage 1, stage 2, and stage 3 combos. This is 6 seconds. That leaves you 6 seconds to be able to refresh GL3 in the most favorable of conditions. This doesnt' cound if you pop touch of death or any thing else (like haymaker). It doesn't work bro, I tried it and I'm a damn good monk.

Not going to debate haymaker cause I like it and use it a lot.

[Mishaela]

Of course shoulder tackle is useful, but 120 second CD is stupid.

I wouldn't mind a lower cooldown but as I said it's a useful skill to save for fights where you need the gap-closing. It's not in a state worth whining about.

You can't keep GL3 up in between pulls, period.

Yes you can, if you move the pack towards the next one as you go and tank starts pulling before last mob of the current pack is dead. You can also use Shoulder Tackle to dash into the next trash pull to keep GL3 going (depends on the pull, of course, some are too dangerous to do that).

You can't even keep Gl3 up in between titan's geocrush.

Yes you can if he jumps when you're moving into your third form (but this is, admittedly, inconsistent).

And if you're not and it falls off, that's what Perfect Balance is for; use it at heart or final phase to get GL3 back up quickly (just like after ifrit and garuda's super moves).

12 duration doesn't mean you have 12 seconds to refresh. A typical GCCD of a monk with GL2 is 2 seconds. possibly 1.95. This is still roughly 2 seconds per hit and you need to hit stage 1, stage 2, and stage 3 combos. This is 6 seconds. That leaves you 6 seconds to be able to refresh GL3 in the most favorable of conditions. This doesnt' cound if you pop touch of death or any thing else (like haymaker).

It doesn't work bro, I tried it and I'm a damn good monk.

'kay.

So I guess I don't need to point out that, since we're nit-picking now, GL refreshes when your third-form skill "completes" not when it's started, as long as you started it while GL3 was still active. Like, if your GL3 is at 1 second left when you start using Demolish, GL3 will actually fall off your buff bar as the skill executes, then reappear as GL3 (not GL1) as Demolish completes, so with a 2s GCD it really only takes about 5 seconds to refresh GL3.