CM AFKers

[Virtuso]

I don't like AFK kick. There are many legit reasons why to AFK and the party always consents to it. Examples include:

Baby crying
Phone calls
Making a sandwich
Going Toilet
Go to the store around the corner for a soda
Any type of Real Life emergencies

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Vote Kick is many times a better solution than automated kick due to arbitrary rules.

Agreed. I see no reason for a timer so long as we get a vote kick option. I've been in a number of easy going laid back FC runs and I don't want an afk timer coming anywhere near that. Voting is more then enough. Makes no sense to have a timer if parties can just kick leeches. Just ruining it for the legit players.

This game also needs a cross-server blacklist, BADLY! Need an easy way to block out the rage crybabies.

[Mezolitik]

I don't like AFK kick. There are many legit reasons why to AFK and the party always consents to it. Examples include:

See, IMHO, if you engage in multiplayer (i.e. raids), you should expect to be killed if you disappear or linger in one area for longer than say 30 seconds (after the objective has been completed). That, for me, is what multiplayer is all about. It's fast-paced and dangerous.

My only experience of multiplayer outside FFXIV and a few other MMOs has been Resident Evil 6. In that game, if you linger, you're dead.

Obviously, there are always gonna be situations that require immediate attention (if your cat has come unplugged, for example) but you can't really blame SE for not programming raids to compensate for the fact that your chips were on fire.

[Aisukage]

a lot don't really think things through when they toss ideas on here. There could be issues with "Vote kick" for example DF puts you in a group of 5-7 premade people. You do most the dungeon with the whole group and from the start they planned to kick you just before you get your rewards just because they think it's funny or they are greedy and want the loot for their own group. This will just end up with more complainers on here. SE can't just go put in idea's that have flaws to them. That may solve 1 problem but can easily cause another one and that is not a solution.

[Valcro]

They're afraid that in a random PUG system like DF, the ability to kick others in any fashion might be abused. That's a valid concern I must admit, but SE needs to consider this: 1)there was abuse in FFXI end game but it was few and far between, it was largely successful meaning abuse wasn't wide spread and rarely happened in the grand scheme of things, and everything was fine. 2)In other MMOs where the same system is implemented and players aren't graced with the ability to kick people from group because it's so mean spirited or something, they are plagued by AFK players, by players with sub par gear trying to skip farming content and go for the best stuff thereby dragging everyone else down when they had to carry their weight, by players that get a kick out of grieving, and by disruptive players that expects a random PUG system via a que to group them with leet geared folk.

This is all Duty Finder will ever be without the ability to kick people who shouldn't be in the group for one reason or another. We WILL see a kick option in the future. I can live with it in a freebie MMO but I will not in a pay game and SE needs to nip that free MMO mentality in it's ass before it spreads frustration and hate amongst the playerbase. They'll learn, I just wish they could learn right now instead of ignoring the feedback and going straight for their original plan. We're MMO gamers, ya know. We have far more experience than any game dev ever will with games because we're not locked behind a computer working on game design for 8-12+ hours a day. We're playing games for, sadly in some cases, 8-12 + hours a day. So quite frankly we know better on how to solve issues within a system like duty finder. We've been there, done that, and done seen humanity at it's worst. No offense to the masters of Final Fantasy, but we just know better in this one little tiny case. Please spare us waiting for many months before you give in and agree and do what must be done, and do it now instead. Freebie MMOs can afford to say stick it, but I doubt a pay game can.

[Zezil]

i want vote bad after end duty. when people get vote bad enough he can't use duty for xxxx hr or xxxx day. this will make game more good manner. and can use in other case like rude people or alot reason. just like have 20 vote bad must wait 1hr after every duty. have 30 vote 2hr 50 vote 1day 100 vote can't use duty until reset next month. and can reset by pay gil or seal -3-b for penalty. like pay 100k or 10k seal for - 10 vote lol. and can use it when people leave to his personal party or team call..make other fail duty. but it should be limit vote bad per day like 1-2 point. for make it important to not easy use.

kick out he will back to make something bad to other duty.and will forget soon... but if have bad vote point people in fc and ls will known how this people bad.. so people must do good manner for look good in his social too.

vote kick when people got 90000 problem.. for find other one replace it will be painful. when if he will back in 5 min but people don't wanna wait. and force other people kick that one out.

[Amenty]

i want vote bad after end duty. when people get vote bad enough he can't use duty for xxxx hr or xxxx day. and can use in other case like rude people or alot reason. just like have 20 vote bad must wait 1hr after every duty. have 30 vote 2hr 50 vote 1day 100 vote can't use duty until reset next month. and can reset by pay gil or seal -3-b for penalty. like pay 100k or 10k seal for - 10 vote.

I am pretty sure that will Never be put in game, that is unfair to the person paying a subscription to play to take away part of their game and it would cost SE a lot of players. That is not a good idea. I had a monk in a Sunken Temple run that was in a caster cowl and he said it was cause he didn't like how anything else looked, so yea I agree some people should not use DF or play an MMO period, But they will have to learn the hard way from being bitched out and blacklisted by a lot of people, kicking them from DF for longer periods cause they suck is not the way.

[gtasthehunter]

Players should leave if anyone tries to AFK or it will just keep happening, and isn't the Leader capable of kicking others, if so and the Leader doesn't kick they are with the that one that is AFK

[Amenty]

Players should leave if anyone tries to AFK or it will just keep happening, and isn't the Leader capable of kicking others, if so and the Leader doesn't kick they are with the that one that is AFK

No the Party leader can not kick anyone.

[AlexiaKidd]

Just make it so if you don't exit through the actual dungeon exit you don't get the reward and a 5 min timer starts as soon as last boss goes down and auto kicks anyone left in the instance giving them no reward.

[CielWulfe]

Just don't reward them for failure to participate. In 1.0, when doing caravan quests, your reward was based on how much you participated. If you were a leech and just tagged along without doing much, if anything, you got little or no reward. Let's do the same here. Not participating is not participating, and you shouldn't get a reward for it. As other people have noted, simply kicking them for sitting idle won't work when they can just hit a button.

Also, for those running afk to go to the store or make food, I'm sorry, but you really should have thought about taking care of that before going into queue. It's selfish and inconvenient to the rest of the party, and could have either waited for the next run or been taken care of before you went in.

For emergency situations, since emergencies are just that, there's no timer as to when you'll be back. Exit the instance and make room for someone else. If you're a parent with a crying baby, I'm sorry about that, too, but that's a priority, not making people wait for you in a dungeon.