CM AFKers

[PSxpert2011]

Nice idea, when you put the kick option in this will allow narrow minded groups to also kick players over silly stuff ...

what made FF11 sucessful was there was so many places to go and things to do in the open world Duty Finder is ok but it pushes the players into a funnel of sorts but wtf do I know I have only been playing video games for 35 years ehhhhhh

I think, the way DF works now is just as time consuming as LFG. Only thing is, this enables cross-server access to the FFcommunity. If someone's a dick and deserves to be kicked, let us kick him/her.
Now, if someone is kicked by discrimination but unjustly, I think the party would have something to say about it. We have good manners enough to discuss it first to save time. No need for sophisticated systems such as the MVP.

TEXT commands work just as easy to vote like it did in FFxi.

[sasakusaku]

What needs to be done along with the planned solutions is: if a player is not in the actual boss zone(s), they get no credit/tokens.

[Luvbunny]

What needs to be done along with the planned solutions is: if a player is not in the actual boss zone(s), they get no credit/tokens.

They can be in the actual zone boss and still goes AFK in the corner, getting credit but not contributing. It should be a check on how much damage you are contributing to the boss, and how much hp you are healing - put a set of minimum numbers to get rewarded.

[sasakusaku]

They can be in the actual zone boss and still goes AFK in the corner, getting credit but not contributing. It should be a check on how much damage you are contributing to the boss, and how much hp you are healing - put a set of minimum numbers to get rewarded.

They would actually have to move to the boss zone and if they persist to afk, you can simply drag mobs on em and get them killed...over and over until their gear breaks. /evil.

I do not like the concept of basing it on contribution, what happens if some one D/Cs during a fight or legitimately has to go afk to address a RL problem? You open a whole can of worms that could effect the non-afkers going this route.

If players are required to actually be in the boss zone to get credit means they can't just que up and sit idle at the entrance like they are doing now: they actually have to MOVE to each boss in order to get credit.

[whoopeeragon]

What needs to be done along with the planned solutions is: if a player is not in the actual boss zone(s), they get no credit/tokens.

Could easily abuse this. If someone is still watching cutscene, due to slow loading times (PS3 or a low end computer), those impatient can zip through and lock them out, preventing those loading to get the reward.

[IveraIvalice]

I had this happen to me once. I told the party I'm leaving if that person doesn't start playing. It's not possible to start a dungeon and be afk, you have to ready up to be put in so they aren't just "whoops sorry I was afk" they are just not participating and that means that kicking them if they stand still won't do anything. When this happend in my party I saw his status in the party list go from normal to watching cutscene back to normal, so they were there and skipped the cutscene.
Glad to see your aware that it's an issue but the proposed solution won't fix anything

[Rekujen]

this wont fix anything.... the only way to get rid of AFK's is using a vote-kick system, period.

[Kimzark]

In every single MMO there have been a Kick button where party votes... some is majority to kick and other needs to be agreed by everyone.
Positive Points:
- Kick AFK people.
- Kick people that just get upset because someone said something and will pretend to be afk while chatting ingame moving from time to time a bit.
- Kick trolls (people that is just bored and go to instances screwing the experience/run for the other players).
- Kick insolent players (who screw up and then come rage at the other players calling bad names,etc)

Negative Points:
- Kick abuse (kicking every single "newbie" because it's their first time).

So overall there is 4 positive points against 1 negative. Therefore my question is: Can we have a kick feature for christmas has a present?

P.S. - This is not only for CM. AK, WP, and even low level dungeons have this problem.

[Mere]

I don't like AFK kick. There are many legit reasons why to AFK and the party always consents to it. Examples include:

Baby crying
Phone calls
Making a sandwich
Going Toilet
Go to the store around the corner for a soda
Any type of Real Life emergencies

I know they are silly reasons for most of you, but when you are actually having fun with a group (which is having no trouble to keep going thru the dungeon with 1 less member,) they usually don't mind someone go afk for well over 10 minutes.

Usually I make my own parties with FC members and we end up one or two DDs short, so we adopt them from the Duty Finder. We are usually having a blast, and when someone has to afk, we simply let them. None of the random DDs have ever complained about people AFKing for more than 10, 20 or even 30 minutes because we always find ways to amuse ourselves while waiting. Our dungeon runs have always been stressless and a lot of fun.

If you implement AFK kick in dungeons, you are adding an extra strain to our parties. Our relaxed, laid back leisure time in the dungeons will be all like "Oh no! I have to take care of Real Life, but I'm afraid that I will be kicked from the dungeon when I come back!" And then, we get some random people as replacement who might end up being a moron that want to speed run and stuff. Meanwhile our original party member is back on the computer but have no means to come back to our party.
I don't want that kind of game !!

Please let our party decide how we want to play !! Don't kick us from the dungeons because we had an emergency !!

Vote Kick is many times a better solution than automated kick due to arbitrary rules.