CM AFKers

[Heather]

I'd really like what's the rationale here. People who knowingly AFK in dungeons to leech will just take it one step further and enable auto-run against a wall, or move a yalm every 10 minutes or something along the lines of that. I just can't imagine that this will have any noticeable positive effect.

I'd think that a system which measures amount of participation, and in case there is no / very little participation, you won't get any reward, is a better solution.

Define participation? if a player puts himself on follow and moves or takes damage, or throws a few dots or hots here or there could throw off any management system.

[Recycler]

Define participation? if a player puts himself on follow and moves or takes damage, or throws a few dots or hots here or there could throw off any management system.

There is no way to accurately determine 'participation', but there are ways of approximation. FATEs do it (albeit not very good in my opinion - but even the FATE way of measurement would be acceptable), there was content in 1.0 that did it. It is possible.

In any case, it would be better than the 'kick if not moved for X minutes' solution. Little participation ("throwing a few dots or hots") is better than none. Cheating this system is still possible of course, but considerably harder than cheating the no-movement-kick one to the point where it isn't worthwhile anymore to attempt AFK leeching for most people.

[M4Fade]

The development team is aware of the issue where players go AFK during dungeons without participating at all, and they will be making it so if a character does not move for a certain period of time they will be automatically kicked from the instance.

*yawn*

Well, hey... it's a start.

The vote-to-kick feature should of been implemented on release, Camate.

[TheRac25]

Greetings,

The development team is aware of the issue where players go AFK during dungeons without participating at all, and they will be making it so if a character does not move for a certain period of time they will be automatically kicked from the instance. This will be implemented along with the MVP voting system in patch 2.1.

lol rofl etc

[Resheph]

Greetings,

The development team is aware of the issue where players go AFK during dungeons without participating at all, and they will be making it so if a character does not move for a certain period of time they will be automatically kicked from the instance. This will be implemented along with the MVP voting system in patch 2.1.

How about no points if they don't participate in the fight? If you're too far away from where the boss dies, or haven't participated in the fight, no tomes. The system is already in place because this is how FATEs work.

[amnie]

How about no points if they don't participate in the fight? If you're too far away from where the boss dies, or haven't participated in the fight, no tomes. The system is already in place because this is how FATEs work.

and this leaves people who want to not skip cutscenes where? you really want to punish people for playing the game as it was intended? you want to punish people to play a FINAL FANTASY game for the story?

leechers aren't everything.


as long as SE doesn't come up with reasonable (!) counter-measures to this, there's only one way to stop leechers: don't give them anything to leech on. yes, it sucks for the dps having to wait even longer, but as long as people are encouraged to leech they will do it.

I've had my first 'trolololol you do my job for me' in a run a few days ago, funny enough in a lowbie dungeon (toto rak)

if they really start invading even the leveling dungeons we have a problem us as the 'community' have to do something against it. we HAVE to be aware of these people and HAVE to make sure they know 'not with us'. they have to know that sooner or later their whole server knows them, and even if they change their names and switch their servers we will know who they are (lodestone character number)

[PSxpert2011]

Greetings,

The development team is aware of the issue where players go AFK during dungeons without participating at all, and they will be making it so if a character does not move for a certain period of time they will be automatically kicked from the instance. This will be implemented along with the MVP voting system in patch 2.1.

Mr Camate Sir, Please... Tell the DEVs that the MVP system won't matter. Just add a "kick" function, please.
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To add, in FFXI the kick function was indiscriminate, and sometime a person kicked never was given a reason. The voting system in FFXI was a text command that suggested a collaborated effort for communication in the community. In FFXIV there's not even that, so ask the DEVs to fix it.

I personally don't care about the forums and wish there was more text features in FFXIV, more communication in-game. The forums is to get help, offer help and report game issues. We don't need any more irrelevant systems, if so why not add a "reputation system server-wide? Just keep the game simple.

FFXI party leader:

/Propose or /Nominate party "Johndoe has been afk for 10 min, should we kick him?" 1:Yes 2:No

/vote 1

<kick>

<kick>

<kick>

<kick>

<kick>

<kick>
/Nominate end

lolMVP system, the community are not machines. Shouldn't be that hard for people to communicate.

[Grailer]

Yeah not sure what these AFK tanks are trying to do except troll .

But what about the people joining titan wearing grey lvl 49 items ?

That is trolling too , there is no chance of win with these people , however I took all my gear off and tanked titan and we wiped. the same people with lvl 49 items got mad and reported me . Oo

[Pacifyer]

Greetings,

The development team is aware of the issue where players go AFK during dungeons without participating at all, and they will be making it so if a character does not move for a certain period of time they will be automatically kicked from the instance. This will be implemented along with the MVP voting system in patch 2.1.

While the idea of kicking (automatic and vote kicking) is a common practice, the most crucial is an ability to replenish freed space with another player which is impossible atm.

[Daniolaut]

Greetings,

The development team is aware of the issue where players go AFK during dungeons without participating at all, and they will be making it so if a character does not move for a certain period of time they will be automatically kicked from the instance. This will be implemented along with the MVP voting system in patch 2.1.

Players who disconnect from an instance, even if you have formed your own party before entering a dungeon should be kicked and replaced with the same job via duty finder after 6 minutes tops.

The i think 15 minute wait? is way too long. The entire party should not suffer because 1 player become disconnected. Please looking into fixing this issue.