CM AFKers

[Aisukage]

a lot don't really think things through when they toss ideas on here. There could be issues with "Vote kick" for example DF puts you in a group of 5-7 premade people. You do most the dungeon with the whole group and from the start they planned to kick you just before you get your rewards just because they think it's funny or they are greedy and want the loot for their own group. This will just end up with more complainers on here. SE can't just go put in idea's that have flaws to them. That may solve 1 problem but can easily cause another one and that is not a solution.

[Virtuso]

I don't like AFK kick. There are many legit reasons why to AFK and the party always consents to it. Examples include:

Baby crying
Phone calls
Making a sandwich
Going Toilet
Go to the store around the corner for a soda
Any type of Real Life emergencies

"snip"

Vote Kick is many times a better solution than automated kick due to arbitrary rules.

Agreed. I see no reason for a timer so long as we get a vote kick option. I've been in a number of easy going laid back FC runs and I don't want an afk timer coming anywhere near that. Voting is more then enough. Makes no sense to have a timer if parties can just kick leeches. Just ruining it for the legit players.

This game also needs a cross-server blacklist, BADLY! Need an easy way to block out the rage crybabies.

[Valcro]

They're afraid that in a random PUG system like DF, the ability to kick others in any fashion might be abused. That's a valid concern I must admit, but SE needs to consider this: 1)there was abuse in FFXI end game but it was few and far between, it was largely successful meaning abuse wasn't wide spread and rarely happened in the grand scheme of things, and everything was fine. 2)In other MMOs where the same system is implemented and players aren't graced with the ability to kick people from group because it's so mean spirited or something, they are plagued by AFK players, by players with sub par gear trying to skip farming content and go for the best stuff thereby dragging everyone else down when they had to carry their weight, by players that get a kick out of grieving, and by disruptive players that expects a random PUG system via a que to group them with leet geared folk.

This is all Duty Finder will ever be without the ability to kick people who shouldn't be in the group for one reason or another. We WILL see a kick option in the future. I can live with it in a freebie MMO but I will not in a pay game and SE needs to nip that free MMO mentality in it's ass before it spreads frustration and hate amongst the playerbase. They'll learn, I just wish they could learn right now instead of ignoring the feedback and going straight for their original plan. We're MMO gamers, ya know. We have far more experience than any game dev ever will with games because we're not locked behind a computer working on game design for 8-12+ hours a day. We're playing games for, sadly in some cases, 8-12 + hours a day. So quite frankly we know better on how to solve issues within a system like duty finder. We've been there, done that, and done seen humanity at it's worst. No offense to the masters of Final Fantasy, but we just know better in this one little tiny case. Please spare us waiting for many months before you give in and agree and do what must be done, and do it now instead. Freebie MMOs can afford to say stick it, but I doubt a pay game can.

[Zezil]

i want vote bad after end duty. when people get vote bad enough he can't use duty for xxxx hr or xxxx day. this will make game more good manner. and can use in other case like rude people or alot reason. just like have 20 vote bad must wait 1hr after every duty. have 30 vote 2hr 50 vote 1day 100 vote can't use duty until reset next month. and can reset by pay gil or seal -3-b for penalty. like pay 100k or 10k seal for - 10 vote lol. and can use it when people leave to his personal party or team call..make other fail duty. but it should be limit vote bad per day like 1-2 point. for make it important to not easy use.

kick out he will back to make something bad to other duty.and will forget soon... but if have bad vote point people in fc and ls will known how this people bad.. so people must do good manner for look good in his social too.

vote kick when people got 90000 problem.. for find other one replace it will be painful. when if he will back in 5 min but people don't wanna wait. and force other people kick that one out.

[gtasthehunter]

Players should leave if anyone tries to AFK or it will just keep happening, and isn't the Leader capable of kicking others, if so and the Leader doesn't kick they are with the that one that is AFK

[Delmontyb]

Greetings,

The development team is aware of the issue where players go AFK during dungeons without participating at all, and they will be making it so if a character does not move for a certain period of time they will be automatically kicked from the instance. This will be implemented along with the MVP voting system in patch 2.1.

If you haven't already, you should put a check in for aggro (hate), while the not moving will help, the hate check would also be a good check to make sure someone doesn't just zone in and auto run into a corner.

Edit:

To add more info, think of it like the FATES where we get ranked based off hate. There could be checks in the game, and while you'll need to balance it, it might be a real help from keeping people running on auto follow or in place.

[Malamasala]

The development team will be making it so if a character does not move for a certain period of time they will be automatically kicked from the instance.

You have to think two steps ahead. This will just be solved by people periodically pushing a button, as others said.

At least add a checkpoint system so the AFKer at least has to run past most of the boss areas. For example if there is 4 bosses, require someone to have passed 2 of the boss areas. Something everyone does if they run from start to finish (since shortcuts drop you off at an earlier boss point). To participate in half the dungeon (and not even forced to participate in half the bosses) should not be a too high requirement to get any rewards.

AFKers could still wait to the end and run up to the final battle or so to get their points, but at least it requires them to actually move through the dungeon.

Edit: People who join mid-dungeon would on the other hand not be forced to do this.

[whoopeeragon]

What needs to be done along with the planned solutions is: if a player is not in the actual boss zone(s), they get no credit/tokens.

Could easily abuse this. If someone is still watching cutscene, due to slow loading times (PS3 or a low end computer), those impatient can zip through and lock them out, preventing those loading to get the reward.

[Evangela]

Greetings,

The development team is aware of the issue where players go AFK during dungeons without participating at all, and they will be making it so if a character does not move for a certain period of time they will be automatically kicked from the instance. This will be implemented along with the MVP voting system in patch 2.1.

I don't like that idea. what if the player need to go away from keyboard and kindly told the others? he will be kicked out of the instanced too? even if the other members allowed him to do so?

why don't add the vote kick system instead of that auto-kick people who doesn't move?

[AlexiaKidd]

Just make it so if you don't exit through the actual dungeon exit you don't get the reward and a 5 min timer starts as soon as last boss goes down and auto kicks anyone left in the instance giving them no reward.