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    Though the reward by participation is very good for DPS, it lacks with tanks and healers.

    IE - I'm a healer, the tank just happens to be decked. Relic+1, AF2, Coil gear, and I have to do very little healing. Does this mean that since I did little participation that I should be kicked or receive less reward/tomes? I was there the whole time. I kept the tank(s) alive. Why should I be penalized for having a very good tank?

    IE2 - I'm an Off-Tank. This dungeon has little to no fights that really need an OT. Again, I did my job, why should I be penalized? (I know you can get around this one by making your own group, just go with it for argument's sake and Duty Finder)

    In view of abusing the Vote-To-Kick, in WoW you were unable to kick after the dungeon was completed. I came across little abuse of the VTK feature through the many years I played. I did, however, use it often to get rid of trolls, AFKers, and people who would join a group for the purpose of causing trouble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Greetings,

    The development team is aware of the issue where players go AFK during dungeons without participating at all, and they will be making it so if a character does not move for a certain period of time they will be automatically kicked from the instance. This will be implemented along with the MVP voting system in patch 2.1.
    The MVP voting system seems like a horrible band-aid fix to the problem. I don't know why SE is so afraid to implement a vote kick system. If the majority of the group doesn't want you there, then you probably shouldn't be there anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pikachew View Post
    The MVP voting system seems like a horrible band-aid fix to the problem. I don't know why SE is so afraid to implement a vote kick system. If the majority of the group doesn't want you there, then you probably shouldn't be there anyway.
    Agreed.

    Vote kick and Minimum Gear Requirements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pikachew View Post
    I don't know why SE is so afraid to implement a vote kick system. If the majority of the group doesn't want you there, then you probably shouldn't be there anyway.
    SE surely is "afraid" to implement a vote kick system, solely based on the fact that many players these days don't know how to play nicely with each-other anymore. Its actually that simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Greetings,

    The development team is aware of the issue where players go AFK during dungeons without participating at all, and they will be making it so if a character does not move for a certain period of time they will be automatically kicked from the instance. This will be implemented along with the MVP voting system in patch 2.1.
    AFK check systems don't do very much. I'm guilty of AFKing in WoW (during the whole 80% of AV players being AFK pre-vote kick patch), and trust me... that check system doesn't work for the overwhelming majority. It's not hard to hit a key every few minutes while you go do something else. Or in many cases, to just set up a bot or keyclone to do it. It is better than nothing though, admittedly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Greetings,

    The development team is aware of the issue where players go AFK during dungeons without participating at all, and they will be making it so if a character does not move for a certain period of time they will be automatically kicked from the instance. This will be implemented along with the MVP voting system in patch 2.1.
    I had a member earlier that was NOT afk and just stood in the beginning of the map talking to us. This does not solve the issue. Also waiting till 2.1 is a mistake. This problem will get no better (since the afker loses nothing) and more people will begin to do this.
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    Last edited by ItzKris; 10-26-2013 at 10:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Greetings,

    The development team is aware of the issue where players go AFK during dungeons without participating at all, and they will be making it so if a character does not move for a certain period of time they will be automatically kicked from the instance. This will be implemented along with the MVP voting system in patch 2.1.
    If you haven't already, you should put a check in for aggro (hate), while the not moving will help, the hate check would also be a good check to make sure someone doesn't just zone in and auto run into a corner.

    Edit:

    To add more info, think of it like the FATES where we get ranked based off hate. There could be checks in the game, and while you'll need to balance it, it might be a real help from keeping people running on auto follow or in place.
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    Last edited by Delmontyb; 10-26-2013 at 07:51 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    The development team will be making it so if a character does not move for a certain period of time they will be automatically kicked from the instance.
    You have to think two steps ahead. This will just be solved by people periodically pushing a button, as others said.

    At least add a checkpoint system so the AFKer at least has to run past most of the boss areas. For example if there is 4 bosses, require someone to have passed 2 of the boss areas. Something everyone does if they run from start to finish (since shortcuts drop you off at an earlier boss point). To participate in half the dungeon (and not even forced to participate in half the bosses) should not be a too high requirement to get any rewards.

    AFKers could still wait to the end and run up to the final battle or so to get their points, but at least it requires them to actually move through the dungeon.

    Edit: People who join mid-dungeon would on the other hand not be forced to do this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Greetings,

    The development team is aware of the issue where players go AFK during dungeons without participating at all, and they will be making it so if a character does not move for a certain period of time they will be automatically kicked from the instance. This will be implemented along with the MVP voting system in patch 2.1.
    I don't like that idea. what if the player need to go away from keyboard and kindly told the others? he will be kicked out of the instanced too? even if the other members allowed him to do so?

    why don't add the vote kick system instead of that auto-kick people who doesn't move?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Greetings,

    The development team is aware of the issue where players go AFK during dungeons without participating at all, and they will be making it so if a character does not move for a certain period of time they will be automatically kicked from the instance. This will be implemented along with the MVP voting system in patch 2.1.
    I'd really like what's the rationale here. People who knowingly AFK in dungeons to leech will just take it one step further and enable auto-run against a wall, or move a yalm every 10 minutes or something along the lines of that. I just can't imagine that this will have any noticeable positive effect.

    I'd think that a system which measures amount of participation, and in case there is no / very little participation, you won't get any reward, is a better solution.
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    Last edited by Recycler; 10-27-2013 at 05:15 AM.

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