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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Greetings,

    The development team is aware of the issue where players go AFK during dungeons without participating at all, and they will be making it so if a character does not move for a certain period of time they will be automatically kicked from the instance. This will be implemented along with the MVP voting system in patch 2.1.
    The MVP voting system seems like a horrible band-aid fix to the problem. I don't know why SE is so afraid to implement a vote kick system. If the majority of the group doesn't want you there, then you probably shouldn't be there anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Greetings,

    The development team is aware of the issue where players go AFK during dungeons without participating at all, and they will be making it so if a character does not move for a certain period of time they will be automatically kicked from the instance. This will be implemented along with the MVP voting system in patch 2.1.
    AFK check systems don't do very much. I'm guilty of AFKing in WoW (during the whole 80% of AV players being AFK pre-vote kick patch), and trust me... that check system doesn't work for the overwhelming majority. It's not hard to hit a key every few minutes while you go do something else. Or in many cases, to just set up a bot or keyclone to do it. It is better than nothing though, admittedly.
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    this wont fix anything.... the only way to get rid of AFK's is using a vote-kick system, period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sasakusaku View Post
    What needs to be done along with the planned solutions is: if a player is not in the actual boss zone(s), they get no credit/tokens.
    They can be in the actual zone boss and still goes AFK in the corner, getting credit but not contributing. It should be a check on how much damage you are contributing to the boss, and how much hp you are healing - put a set of minimum numbers to get rewarded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pikachew View Post
    The MVP voting system seems like a horrible band-aid fix to the problem. I don't know why SE is so afraid to implement a vote kick system. If the majority of the group doesn't want you there, then you probably shouldn't be there anyway.
    Agreed.

    Vote kick and Minimum Gear Requirements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    They can be in the actual zone boss and still goes AFK in the corner, getting credit but not contributing. It should be a check on how much damage you are contributing to the boss, and how much hp you are healing - put a set of minimum numbers to get rewarded.
    They would actually have to move to the boss zone and if they persist to afk, you can simply drag mobs on em and get them killed...over and over until their gear breaks. /evil.

    I do not like the concept of basing it on contribution, what happens if some one D/Cs during a fight or legitimately has to go afk to address a RL problem? You open a whole can of worms that could effect the non-afkers going this route.

    If players are required to actually be in the boss zone to get credit means they can't just que up and sit idle at the entrance like they are doing now: they actually have to MOVE to each boss in order to get credit.
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    Last edited by sasakusaku; 10-26-2013 at 09:31 AM.

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    In every single MMO there have been a Kick button where party votes... some is majority to kick and other needs to be agreed by everyone.
    Positive Points:
    - Kick AFK people.
    - Kick people that just get upset because someone said something and will pretend to be afk while chatting ingame moving from time to time a bit.
    - Kick trolls (people that is just bored and go to instances screwing the experience/run for the other players).
    - Kick insolent players (who screw up and then come rage at the other players calling bad names,etc)

    Negative Points:
    - Kick abuse (kicking every single "newbie" because it's their first time).

    So overall there is 4 positive points against 1 negative. Therefore my question is: Can we have a kick feature for christmas has a present?

    P.S. - This is not only for CM. AK, WP, and even low level dungeons have this problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pikachew View Post
    I don't know why SE is so afraid to implement a vote kick system. If the majority of the group doesn't want you there, then you probably shouldn't be there anyway.
    SE surely is "afraid" to implement a vote kick system, solely based on the fact that many players these days don't know how to play nicely with each-other anymore. Its actually that simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Greetings,

    The development team is aware of the issue where players go AFK during dungeons without participating at all, and they will be making it so if a character does not move for a certain period of time they will be automatically kicked from the instance. This will be implemented along with the MVP voting system in patch 2.1.
    I had a member earlier that was NOT afk and just stood in the beginning of the map talking to us. This does not solve the issue. Also waiting till 2.1 is a mistake. This problem will get no better (since the afker loses nothing) and more people will begin to do this.
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    Last edited by ItzKris; 10-26-2013 at 10:46 AM.

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    Don't Auto Kick my party members from the dungeon !!

    I don't like AFK kick. There are many legit reasons why to AFK and the party always consents to it. Examples include:

    Baby crying
    Phone calls
    Making a sandwich
    Going Toilet
    Go to the store around the corner for a soda
    Any type of Real Life emergencies

    I know they are silly reasons for most of you, but when you are actually having fun with a group (which is having no trouble to keep going thru the dungeon with 1 less member,) they usually don't mind someone go afk for well over 10 minutes.

    Usually I make my own parties with FC members and we end up one or two DDs short, so we adopt them from the Duty Finder. We are usually having a blast, and when someone has to afk, we simply let them. None of the random DDs have ever complained about people AFKing for more than 10, 20 or even 30 minutes because we always find ways to amuse ourselves while waiting. Our dungeon runs have always been stressless and a lot of fun.

    If you implement AFK kick in dungeons, you are adding an extra strain to our parties. Our relaxed, laid back leisure time in the dungeons will be all like "Oh no! I have to take care of Real Life, but I'm afraid that I will be kicked from the dungeon when I come back!" And then, we get some random people as replacement who might end up being a moron that want to speed run and stuff. Meanwhile our original party member is back on the computer but have no means to come back to our party.
    I don't want that kind of game !!

    Please let our party decide how we want to play !! Don't kick us from the dungeons because we had an emergency !!

    Vote Kick is many times a better solution than automated kick due to arbitrary rules.
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