CM AFKers

[Zezil]

but i sure.if have poll about what type of people your kick?

1.AFKer
2.Rude
3.Leecher
4.he use SP Gear
5.he don't have Relic
6.Job not match
7.We hate them
8.He is man
9.He need what my girlfriend want.
10.He is first time.
11.He go wc.. so we kick him and call own friend.
12.He is.. nothing but my friend come and he want Myst Point
13.we reach boss and my brother want this point so we kick him.
bla bla bla

i sure all will happen to someone.so for me kick will make more problem when you give power to group of people can do something more bad then afk. people know how to do right thing. but do you think all people will do that in right manner. it will less happen but i worst then afker and the one will do may be you or your friend or that will happen to yourself.

[Pacifyer]

but i sure.if have poll about what type of people your kick?

1.AFKer
2.Rude
3.Leecher
4.he use SP Gear
5.he don't have Relic
6.Job not match
7.We hate them
8.He is man
9.He need what my girlfriend want.
10.He is first time.
11.He go wc.. so we kick him and call own friend.
12.He is.. nothing but my friend come and he want Myst Point
13.we reach boss and my brother want this point so we kick him.
bla bla bla

i sure all will happen to someone.so for me kick will make more problem when you give power to group of people can do something more bad then afk. people know how to do right thing. but do you think all people will do that in right manner. it will less happen but i worst then afker and the one will do may be you or your friend or that will happen to yourself.

You forgot one of the most common - He is PS3 player

[DubstepNinja]

yeah it is a bit worrying that a group can troll people by kicking them right before completing a dungeon.

I guess this is why we won't get a kick option, imagine completing a dungeon to 90% then being kicked right at the end. I don't really trust the DF community in its current state to give them this power.

[Kincard]

yeah it is a bit worrying that a group can troll people by kicking them right before completing a dungeon.

I guess this is why we won't get a kick option, imagine completing a dungeon to 90% then being kicked right at the end. I don't really trust the DF community in its current state to give them this power.

Why are people still having trouble understanding the simple logic of the situation- it makes no sense to be more worried that a votekick system will allow teams of 3 or 7 to annoy one person at a time rather than a system where 1 person can ruin it for 3 or 7 others. Griefing is always going to exist but these halfassed non-solutions will at best do nothing but slightly inconvenience griefers and at worst be set up in a way so that legitimate players will get punished for going AFK for legitimate reasons.

Why does the SE dev team always feel like it needs to try a bunch of useless third options before they realize that oftentimes the usual solution to issues like this are the usual ones for a reason?

[Elim]

Like people have said, since fates rank peoples contribution, why not add a system like that to dungeons? After each boss, if someone has not gotten a ranking, they should be subject to a vote kick. It doesn't mean people will kick them, but it gives people a fair chance to not be kicked just because someone doesn't like them, and for afkers that do not contribute anything to be kicked.

[Volcano]

I think a good solution instead of a easily by passed kick is if people don't participate, IE system should check if a player makes contribution. such as enemy attacks and other player buffing etc. if they do none of that the reward will be 0, Much like how FATES system works, if you stand in a FATE area and do nothing, you get no credit or very little credit depending on how much you put in.

[TyloRime]

Seems to me (& most of the posters in this thread) that you aren't really fixing issue if the workaround is part of pop culture, I'm going to hope/assume that the Developers are thinking of this as well.

[Rane]

I'd like to add my voice to the chorus of people who don't like the idea of a dungeon AFK kick feature. As others have said, it's very easy to circumvent, and it will impact innocent players as well.

I was running Cutter's Cry with some people in my FC last night when one of them started having internet problems. We waited for over 30 minutes outside the second boss's room for her to fix the problem, and most of the time we were just standing there talking in Mumble. Eventually she managed to get back on, and we finished out the instance successfully. It would have really put a sour taste in my mouth if one of us had gotten kicked from the instance because we forgot to move our character to cancel out the AFK timer while waiting for her.

Vote to kick has the potential to be abused, but it will probably solve the problem of people leeching in dungeon runs. AFK dungeon kick, on the other hand, probably won't solve much at all, and it will be an irritating feature that has the potential to ruin a run for a legitimate party. I'm afraid this will do more harm than good.

[NeruMew]

I'd like to add my voice to the chorus of people who don't like the idea of a dungeon AFK kick feature. As others have said, it's very easy to circumvent, and it will impact innocent players as well.

I was running Cutter's Cry with some people in my FC last night when one of them started having internet problems. We waited for over 30 minutes outside the second boss's room for her to fix the problem, and most of the time we were just standing there talking in Mumble. Eventually she managed to get back on, and we finished out the instance successfully. It would have really put a sour taste in my mouth if one of us had gotten kicked from the instance because we forgot to move our character to cancel out the AFK timer while waiting for her.

Vote to kick has the potential to be abused, but it will probably solve the problem of people leeching in dungeon runs. AFK dungeon kick, on the other hand, probably won't solve much at all, and it will be an irritating feature that has the potential to ruin a run for a legitimate party. I'm afraid this will do more harm than good.

Must remark the impotance of this.

[TeganLaron]

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Is it really that much of an inconvenience to move your character once every thirty minutes?