building a pc for this game

**KyteStones** · 10-23-2013 04:55 AM

Originally Posted by Gamemako

I will have to agree with ufufu that your build is poor. You've paired a $100 650Ti Boost with $800 in other parts. You have a 750W PSU on a system which will draw less than 300W under load, and that makes no sense at all. It is not hard at all to build a sub-$800 machine with good parts, but you have to put your money where it counts.

I paired a 650 Ti for the fact that I got it for free when I bought my rig. For this game and all games coming out minus BF4 I can play everything max settings, with no framerate drops at all. For my budget of $1,200 i was able to cut under it by not buying the 770 like I wanted, and it's worth waiting for. Black Friday sale will hopefully be as good as last years on newegg and I can get the 770 for $250 to $300. I bought better parts for one gfx card that pulls less for a reason. This rig will be fully decked out with in a year or so, why buy multiple parts in the future when I can just get it all done now, and just upgrade slower when parts become cheaper by the time I need them.

**Hobo** · 10-23-2013 04:58 AM

**PerrythePlatypus** · 10-23-2013 04:59 AM

Originally Posted by Hobo

Why would you even consider a Titan when the R90x is just around the corner, meets it in performance and is $300 less? Then there's the gtx 780....
Why would you get a 800D and not be water cooling? ( closed loop in-a-box doesn't count)
Extreme edition I7 ( $1000) now I know you're just wasting forum space/trolling. you wouldn't notice a difference in a game vs a 4770k.
You don't need a 1200wat PSU. ( and edit @ your post below: again, no you don't need a 1200wat psu, and the unless you're using like 8HDD's and water cooling, yes the 800D is wasted space.)

Did you just slap together the most expensive parts imaginable?
You don't remember or are too young to have been around for the Pentium4 "extreme edition"... $1000 bested by a $200 Athlon64.
Not to mention the socket type of the "extreme edition"..it's already obsolete.
It must be nice to waste money, but you don't even spend it properly, or make rational decisions. lol@Titan.

Originally Posted by Gamemako

just went on Newegg and searched for the most expensive items you could get for each category.

That's exactly what he did.

Originally Posted by Vivik

Graphics: http://216.52.208.185/Product/Produc...82E16814121656

People need to stop recommending the 660/660 ti. It's obsolete and discontinued, and you can get better( GTX760, 7950 or a R9 270X) for the same price.

Originally Posted by Hobo

Gamemako it looks like you need to brush up on your readings.

Learn more about PSU's and why they don't really pull what they list here:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/410
and yes the hotter the PSU the less the power output.

You're in no position to be trying to learn him or anyone. You're just all around....wrong.

Originally Posted by reality_check

1. It's a bigger hassle to build your own computer for people who don't know how to build computers.

2. 999.99 isn't at all overpriced for the system I got. All about finding the sales with the prebuilts.

3. There's no custom building a rig with a chassis as compact as an X51. Not everyone has the room for a big hulking computer in their entertainment station.

Yes it is flat out overpaying. You coudl have gotten higher quality for the same money, or less. You got a rebadged Dell.
And yes you could have got a compact case. There are many varieties of types and brands to chose from when you build. ATX, MATX, ITX, MITX...those suitable for HTPC's, those suitable for water cooling... the in between. You name it.
The only thing I'll give you is #1.

**Hobo** · 10-23-2013 05:07 AM

Originally Posted by PerrythePlatypus

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1) I love the space inside the 800D and I've used this case several times before.
2) I've done sub-zero setups and full blown water cooling setups but I'm feeling lazy currently and going with an out of the box solution.
3) I just buy the fastest CPU because I have the money. (not claiming this is a budget build by any means)
4) Yes I do need a 1200wat PSU. I'll eventually be adding 2 more GPU's and the ambient temp in my room can vary drastically. (I'm sure you're enough of a tech nerd to know what happens to PSU's when they get hot... HINT: they put out less power)

**Gamemako** · 10-23-2013 05:08 AM

Originally Posted by KyteStones

This rig will be fully decked out with in a year or so, why buy multiple parts in the future when I can just get it all done now, and just upgrade slower when parts become cheaper by the time I need them.

Your $1200 current rig will be next year's $600 budget rig. Build a complete system without overkill anywhere and you'll have a rig that keeps everything maxed for 3-4 years. My box is 4.5 years old now and still champs through everything. It was $600 at the time and has $130 worth of upgrade in it. I run ARR @ max settings, only get noticeable slowdown in towns and big FATEs (all due to having slow old budget processor -- Phenom II 720 @3.4 with 4th core unlocked). Yeah, it's due an upgrade, but I didn't exactly break the bank to make it, and until the next console generation shows up and games start being made to higher specs, I don't really have need.

Originally Posted by Hobo

This is the build I'm putting together today:

This has to be a joke. A Titan? Today? And a SB-E proc?

**Fiorana** · 10-23-2013 05:12 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129066

http://204.14.213.185/Product/Produc...82E16813128514

http://204.14.213.185/Product/Produc...82E16817139028

http://204.14.213.185/Product/Produc...82E16820231460

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819113286

http://204.14.213.185/Product/Produc...82E16820147247

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161443

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835103099

Comes in just around 800, solid build.

**Vivik** · 10-23-2013 05:13 AM

Ok here is one I built quick on newegg.com. This is about as close to 800 bucks as I could get.

Case : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129042

HD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136769

Graphics: http://216.52.208.185/Product/Produc...82E16814121656

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139028

Memory: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231445

Mainboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813135340

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116504

If you include a copy of windows 7 Home Premium for $99.00 the total build is 919.92. Almost forgot, throw in a DvD burner for another $20.00.

**Gamemako** · 10-23-2013 05:15 AM

Originally Posted by Hobo

3) I just buy the fastest CPU because I have the money. (not claiming this is a budget build by any means)
4) Yes I do need a 1200wat PSU. I'll eventually be adding 2 more GPU's and the ambient temp in my room can vary drastically. (I'm sure you're enough of a tech nerd to know what happens to PSU's when they get hot... HINT: they put out less power)

No, and no. You're running SB-E when it's already discontinued and outperformed in gaming. IB-E will perform similarly to your standard Haswell proc. And unless you live in an oven, your power output is not going to be significantly affected by ambient temperature. This is just a bunch of hogwash; you really just went on Newegg and searched for the most expensive items you could get for each category.

//EDIT:

Originally Posted by Fiorana

Comes in just around 800, solid build.

Best build I've seen posted yet. Could shave a few things for value, get better deals on 7950 than 270X, drop the SSD (hard to use without a data drive as well -- 120GB is nothing these days), etc. Still, very solid. Thumbs up.

**Hobo** · 10-23-2013 05:22 AM

Originally Posted by Gamemako

No, and no. You're running SB-E when it's already discontinued and outperformed in gaming. IB-E will perform similarly to your standard Haswell proc. And unless you live in an oven, your power output is not going to be significantly affected by ambient temperature. This is just a bunch of hogwash; you really just went on Newegg and searched for the most expensive items you could get for each category.

Gamemako it looks like you need to brush up on your readings.

Learn more about PSU's and why they don't really pull what they list here:

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/410

and yes the hotter the PSU the less the power output.

**reality_check** · 10-23-2013 05:24 AM

Originally Posted by PerrythePlatypus

It's not so much "Alienware" those that know better advise against so much as buying prebuilt /big box at all.
I could have built you better, for less. You over payed payed for a shiny logo, a generic or unknown brand of PSU, bloatware, and parts you could have switched out ( I7 for gaming is pointless, non ti 660 is meh)
But hey it's got a cool logo on it.

1. It's a bigger hassle to build your own computer for people who don't know how to build computers.

2. 999.99 isn't at all overpriced for the system I got. All about finding the sales with the prebuilts.

3. There's no custom building a rig with a chassis as compact as an X51. Not everyone has the room for a big hulking computer in their entertainment station.

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