Just a quick thought on Loot.

[Yamitri]

I just finished running a dungeon today looking for a piece of loot, we were 1 dps down and did a 3 man boss. When that happened, a new party member joined just before the boss died, and the piece of loot dropped. I rolled need on the gear, and a did the other person. They won it.

I believe it is wrong to do all that work, and 3 man a boss and to have someone who was not even present in said fight, randomly join, and win the loot over me.

Would it be possible to introduce a feature that prevents people who have not participated in the boss, from rolling on loot? They can still net exp and such, but just prevent them from rolling on the loot.

I understand it can be abused like any other feature, but i believed it would provide fairness for those who "earned" their loot, instead of someone who did not put in any work, benefitting from other peoples effort

Thoughts?

[NataliaAma]

I saw a similar problem while doing castrum and praetorium runs. Someone would DC and just so happen to reconnect right at the end fight.
Barely any work and bam 100 stones.

It's very frustrating to have a big part in the success of a dungeon and/or run and not be rewarded for it.

[Sinth]

Nice to have feature, expect it to be implemented in a few years after all the real issues are addressed.

[Yamitri]

I suppose, but I still find it annoying that people can benefit from zero work.

[Xayoc]

I suppose, but I still find it annoying that people can benefit from zero work.

This is what happens when Socialism is introduced in video games...

[Yamitri]

This is what happens when Socialism is introduced in video games...

Such a blanket statement, I actually had to look that up to remember what socialism, at it's core, was. I do not believe that socialism has any merit at all to my suggestion, aside from the fact of you get what you earn. I just don't think it's fair to provide someone reward, for joining in progress.. especially if they do nothing to earn the loot drop.

Joining in progress is fine, it really is.. and I very much encourage such actions, just do not expect to sit outside the boss room, and still be able to roll on loot.

[Lisotte]

Such a blanket statement, I actually had to look that up to remember what socialism, at it's core, was. I do not believe that socialism has any merit at all to my suggestion, aside from the fact of you get what you earn. I just don't think it's fair to provide someone reward, for joining in progress.. especially if they do nothing to earn the loot drop.

Woooooosh... that joke really flew over your head, didn't it?

On topic, I don't think it really matters that much. If it's a dungeon prior to lvl 50 then who cares, you'd have outdated the gear in a few levels anyway. If it's lvl 50 dungeon, you'll outdate the gear pretty quickly as well. Yeah it might suck initially but really, who cares? I don't think it's worth the time and effort of the devs to make it so that you can't join a party after the last boss fight starts.

[Ksenia]

This along with a whole new batch of reasons exclusive to FF14 is why most people loath dungeons and raids.

4 people, 1 loot.

[Obysuca]

This along with a whole new batch of reasons exclusive to FF14 is why most people loath dungeons and raids.

4 people, 1 loot.

That's what I fear Crystal Tower will be :/ 24 people, 1-2 items from a chest.


Semi-related since it's still about people rolling need on gear. What I'd like to see is that if you have better gear and more than 5 levels higher than the piece(so people can't go in with crap gear), you can't hit need on it. Too many times have I been in a dungeon, a piece drops that I actually need for the job I'm lvling only to lose to a person who wants to spiritbind / sell it. If people want to spiritbind gear, go do it from npc/craftable stuff, don't roll need on it over someone who will actually use it for something they're lvling.

[Reiterpallasch]

This along with a whole new batch of reasons exclusive to FF14 is why most people loath dungeons and raids.

4 people, 1 loot.

In WoW it's 5 people, 1 loot. Raiding is 2 pieces per 10 people, or 6 per 25. Tell me again how this is a FF14 exclusive "problem"?