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    Yamitri's Avatar
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    Zaizhir Jyn
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    Just a quick thought on Loot.

    I just finished running a dungeon today looking for a piece of loot, we were 1 dps down and did a 3 man boss. When that happened, a new party member joined just before the boss died, and the piece of loot dropped. I rolled need on the gear, and a did the other person. They won it.

    I believe it is wrong to do all that work, and 3 man a boss and to have someone who was not even present in said fight, randomly join, and win the loot over me.

    Would it be possible to introduce a feature that prevents people who have not participated in the boss, from rolling on loot? They can still net exp and such, but just prevent them from rolling on the loot.

    I understand it can be abused like any other feature, but i believed it would provide fairness for those who "earned" their loot, instead of someone who did not put in any work, benefitting from other peoples effort

    Thoughts?

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    NataliaAma's Avatar
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    Natalia Amariyo
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    I saw a similar problem while doing castrum and praetorium runs. Someone would DC and just so happen to reconnect right at the end fight.
    Barely any work and bam 100 stones.

    It's very frustrating to have a big part in the success of a dungeon and/or run and not be rewarded for it.
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    Nice to have feature, expect it to be implemented in a few years after all the real issues are addressed.
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    Yamitri's Avatar
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    I suppose, but I still find it annoying that people can benefit from zero work.

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    Ksenia Solo
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    This along with a whole new batch of reasons exclusive to FF14 is why most people loath dungeons and raids.

    4 people, 1 loot.
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    Orophin Calmcacil
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    You could always decline to search for a new member, I guess?
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    Alma Wyndsong
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    Is that really possible? I joined a group in progress for the first time this morning as a lancer and when a DPS item dropped it only let me roll greed. Thought that was a measure in place to avoid such problems.
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    Venin Asag
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    yes please implement a feature so even less people "join in progress"
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    Ayaminae Yirien
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksenia View Post
    This along with a whole new batch of reasons exclusive to FF14 is why most people loath dungeons and raids.

    4 people, 1 loot.
    That's what I fear Crystal Tower will be :/ 24 people, 1-2 items from a chest.


    Semi-related since it's still about people rolling need on gear. What I'd like to see is that if you have better gear and more than 5 levels higher than the piece(so people can't go in with crap gear), you can't hit need on it. Too many times have I been in a dungeon, a piece drops that I actually need for the job I'm lvling only to lose to a person who wants to spiritbind / sell it. If people want to spiritbind gear, go do it from npc/craftable stuff, don't roll need on it over someone who will actually use it for something they're lvling.
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    Makoto Edakumi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klutz64 View Post
    Is that really possible? I joined a group in progress for the first time this morning as a lancer and when a DPS item dropped it only let me roll greed. Thought that was a measure in place to avoid such problems.
    DEX+ is BRD/ARC, cloth STR+ is MNK/PGL. It was probably one of those, even if it says 'DoW'.
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