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    Solution to long dps queue times

    So the problem is obviously too many dps and not enough tanks/healers, so I'm sure it's been thrown around that people should just level up more tanks but obviously that isn't an ideal solution.

    A better solution would be to have an 8 man dungeon capable of being solo tanked. Obviously CM can be solo tanked at the moment but it's still not easy for a brand new tank to solo it, so why not just modify CM a bit, remove the adds on the bosses and increase the bosses HP and change the default queue from 2 tanks 2 healers and 4 dps to 1 tank 1 healer 6 dps.

    You could even raise up AK and WP to 8 man groups instead of 4 adding four more dps. Add more hp to all the mobs/bosses to compensate for the extra dps and it would still be completed in the same amount of time as before.
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    An instance with low damage bosses who are all DPS checks. 1 Healer 1 Tank 6 DPS. GOGOGO.
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    Horg H'rolden
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    This sounds like a terrible idea >_< this would require a ton of work that I'd rather see go into expanding the instances available to run. Contrary to popular belief SE doesn't build these instances like you'd toss together a house in Minecraft...it takes a ton of time and effort to create, QA and balance these places. Besides PRAE groups are generally 1 healer / 1 tank / 6 dps. This is a persistent problem in all games, doing what you suggest would be very little help in completely resolving the unsolvable issue.

    *Edit* Better idea, make all content able to be tanked by DPS and healed completely by Pets which everyone gets access to. Solved. *Sarcasm*
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    Aggronaught Imortalis
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    Ya lets cater to more mouth breather and window lickers.

    There are enough tanks and healers, the proportion of tanks/healers you need in coil is the same proportion of tanks/healers you need for four man, making any changes will offset the balance when it comes to raiding.

    why not just remove the roles, make everyone tank/dps and heals, OH WAIT YOU CAN ALREADY DO THAT, but people still want to dps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aggronaught View Post
    There are enough tanks and healers
    Says the guy who has only ever played a tank role. Not biased, not biased at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinth View Post
    Says the guy who has only ever played a tank role. Not biased, not biased at all.
    Context, do you know what that is? don't selectively quote what you want to quote, you look like a bigger moron than the OP.

    So, what if I play a tank? you can play a tank too instead of wanting to face roll on DPS and want to have faster queues like tank/heals.
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    Vamperica Garisk
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    Solution 1: roll tank class, ???, profit.
    Solution 2: pay for a geared tank or healer to queue with you, ???, profit.
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    Player Sinth's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aggronaught View Post
    Context, do you know what that is? don't selectively quote what you want to quote, you look like a bigger moron than the OP.
    I was saving you from commentarty on the rest of your ignorant post by excluding the "supportive" content of your statement that there are plenty of tanks and healers. If there are plenty of tanks/healers why is it that DPS have to wait 30-60 minutes in queue for a popular dungeon?

    To address your "context":

    Proportion for coil is out of balance. Guilds receive vastly more DPS applications than they receive healer or tank applications. This is easily reflected by the recruitment of end-game guilds on every world.

    Stating that everyone can tank/dps/heal is ridiculous. Your solution to an inproportionate amount of DPS players is to have them change roles. So your solution is to force players to play roles they do not prefer? This is your solution? As opposed to generating content which offsets the imbalance, people should simply change roles. Right. So your logic is "stop liking what I don't like"? Perfect.
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    None of what the OP suggested would help anything. There are still far too many DPS to cater for even if everything was 8 man content (god no) or if it was one tank only you'd still have a long queue because the hundreds of DPS are all fighting each other for spots. Even with more spots per run still too many DPS to make the queue shorter.

    And then you are reducing Tank and Healer spots simply to get your own way when it won't even help you. It's like this in every MMO because everyone wants to play a DPS role since big numbers = E-Peen and they are easy to level and play.
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    Player Sinth's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MXMoondoggie View Post
    they are easy to level and play.
    I am pretty sure DRG and MNK require the most skill out of any job in this game due to their exposure to AoEs, and the relatively complex skill rotations / awareness required to do optimal DPS.

    Healers can have a hard time too, but that is typically dependant upon how poorly your group performs.
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