WAR without Defiance, Stupid or Doable?

[Mishini_Dracoto]

I will sometimes take defiance off for trash mobs in 4 man dungeons and in 8 man dungeons if I am the off tank. However for almost every boss I have it up, (except beginning of demon wall).

Beginning of Demon wall used to be the only time I had Defiance up in that fight. when the Bee's spawned they would come for me instead of healer. Now I don't run it at all because 75% of the time the bee's don't even spawn. The rest of the time we ignore them and the wall dies, they despawn.

[Grogin]

I usually keep it up the whole fight since I don't want the healer to have to heal the difference in HP and the difference in my damage compared to what the DPS are doing is not relevant. However, that was just the only boss situation where I could think of going without it at all.