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    Skullcrusher's Avatar
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    Zraine Do'urth
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Why ff14 couldnt have a storage like gw2 is beyond me.
    Why ff14 wont let you craft from items in your storage is beyond me.
    Why ff14 cant tell you how much of a material you keep in storage is beyond me..

    Its 2013, not 2001. Streamline mundane stuff like sifting thru rubbish looking for 1 bat wing and add real content like 20 new dungeons, 15 new mini bosses, 10 new raids with varying difficulty...Yes, i know, its a casual mmo...

    So many QOL issues missing from the game. Why cant we auto dismount when talking to a npc....
    List goes on and on...
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    Ksenia Solo
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    Sargatanas
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    Weaver Lv 100
    The big chore is putting stuff back. If you have it set up right you won't find it's hard to keep it ordered as long as you remember that Vendor one, Bag six is where the wood goes, Bag three is where the weaver stuff goes.

    For leveling purposes all you truly need are whatever is required for 3/3 turn ins. Once you have that addressed you can decide if you want to use a single craft at all levels and be a true professional of that class. Know what you need for cross class components and so on.
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    Kyronex Zero
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    As already mentioned, if you're a crafter or gatherer, the craftingasaservice site is a must to get organized: http://craftingasaservice.com/career...N,BTN,FSH/1/70
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    TemprusofTime's Avatar
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    Karyna Faruna
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    Adamantoise
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    Arcanist Lv 45
    You all keep pushing crafting as a service, and i agree, it's nice. But it's not the end all crafting bible. Crafting as a service only calculates you doing one of each recipe. But there's one main problem with this.

    A lot of people do leves, which is way more than one of each item in the recipe log. A lot of people will waste materials on one item several times trying to HQ it for their own or a friend's use. A lot of people will make items or materials in HQ to sell on the market. Again, more than one.

    So yes, crafting as a service is nice. But only as a very, very, very, very general overview. I assume that when I'm done I'll probably use way more copper and iron than it says just because I'm sure I've already surpassed its total.
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    Karyna Faruna (Hyur) - Scholar Officer of the Fairy Tail! Free Company and Serpent Sergeant First Class of the Twin Adders (Adamantoise Server)
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    Kyronex Zero
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by TemprusofTime View Post
    You all keep pushing crafting as a service, and i agree, it's nice. But it's not the end all crafting bible. Crafting as a service only calculates you doing one of each recipe. But there's one main problem with this.

    A lot of people do leves, which is way more than one of each item in the recipe log. A lot of people will waste materials on one item several times trying to HQ it for their own or a friend's use. A lot of people will make items or materials in HQ to sell on the market. Again, more than one.

    So yes, crafting as a service is nice. But only as a very, very, very, very general overview. I assume that when I'm done I'll probably use way more copper and iron than it says just because I'm sure I've already surpassed its total.

    You know there's a leve section right? http://craftingasaservice.com/leve

    If that's not enough, there's even a crafting calculator where you punch in the number if items needed and it will tell you exactly how many mats you need.
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    Last edited by Kyronex; 10-23-2013 at 09:58 AM.

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    Karyna Faruna
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyronex View Post
    You know there's a leve section right? http://craftingasaservice.com/leve

    If that's not enough, there's even a crafting calculator where you punch in the number if items needed and it will tell you exactly how many mats you need.
    And yet this still doesn't help with telling a self-gathering crafter what they really should keep. Typically you'll always go out gathering and you'll always have stores full of materials. Again, that site is nice, but it's not the end-all gather/craft bible.
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    Karyna Faruna (Hyur) - Scholar Officer of the Fairy Tail! Free Company and Serpent Sergeant First Class of the Twin Adders (Adamantoise Server)
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    Quote Originally Posted by TemprusofTime View Post
    And yet this still doesn't help with telling a self-gathering crafter what they really should keep. Typically you'll always go out gathering and you'll always have stores full of materials. Again, that site is nice, but it's not the end-all gather/craft bible.
    Do you want to be spoon fed everything? Expend a "little" effort on your part, seriously. How hard is it to look up the item you're gathering and see if it's a mat you need for what you're crafting? Every item on that site is cross-referenced with xivdb too.
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    Karyna Faruna
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyronex View Post
    Do you want to be spoon fed everything? Expend a "little" effort on your part, seriously. How hard is it to look up the item you're gathering and see if it's a mat you need for what you're crafting? Every item on that site is cross-referenced with xivdb too.
    Seems you're still not getting me. Personally I only use that site when I'm hunting mobs like diremites so i can get a general idea of how many drops I might need from them. I'm the type of crafter who insures that he gathers all of the materials he needs before leveling a class (as I recently gathered two stacks of silver and over 20 of each gem for doing the current log I have as I level goldsmithing from 25 to 30). I am merely saying don't use it as an end-all site. I don't hate the site, and have used it and linked it in the past. I, however, tend to research on the fly and get prepared using all the tools at my disposal.

    So don't confuse me with those who need to be spoon fed. You obviously have no idea how I do things.
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    Karyna Faruna (Hyur) - Scholar Officer of the Fairy Tail! Free Company and Serpent Sergeant First Class of the Twin Adders (Adamantoise Server)
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    Karyna Faruna
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    Well both of your points are good, but again, I plan on crafting for my company (so having stuff on hands is always my plan). Also with the upcoming housing and 80+% of it being crafted, I don't wanna vendor anything. ^.^;

    As for buying from vendors, I try not to. When I need stuff, I tend to mine/forage it in stacks.
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    Karyna Faruna (Hyur) - Scholar Officer of the Fairy Tail! Free Company and Serpent Sergeant First Class of the Twin Adders (Adamantoise Server)
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/3290257/

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    Deolus Moonshadow
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    Cerberus
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    I have all my DoH and DoL at 40+ so you can imagine how full my retainers are.

    What you simply HAVE to do is check each item on one of the database sites out there (I use gamerescape) and get rid of anything you will not need any more.

    Find out how much of an item you will need in the future and keep just over that amount (for catastrophic failures etc). Don't hoard stacks of raw gems for example.

    For culinarist especially, they need so few of each item that it might be simpler just to harvest or buy what you need for each crafting level.

    Also, don't store items you can buy cheaply from the crafting guilds: i.e. rock salt, iron ore, cotton bolls can all be bought cheaply from the crafting guilds.

    I also tend to only store raw materials. For example I make ingots as I need them and keep them in my inventory if I made a few too many and I know I will use them soon.

    I use the first tab of each retainer for items I'm selling (i.e. finished goods or materials I no longer need that have some value). If that tab is full then I stop crafting till I've sold some stuff.
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