Gated Content:

[Shaone]

Is this real?

[AmonXF]

Is this real?

Absolutely real.

I have about 2-3 hours of play time per sitting - last night in prime time I sat in a queue for 1.5 hours for an 8man instance and then decided I didn't have any longer to wait. I can't even start on "end game" dungeon grinding - or relic yet as far as I know until I complete my story mode.

Why mix "raid" content with 4man too... that's just stupid design also. Especially if there's really a low incentive to queue up to help others finish.

[Shaone]

Absolutely real.

I have about 2-3 hours of play time per sitting - last night in prime time I sat in a queue for 1.5 hours for an 8man instance and then decided I didn't have any longer to wait. I can't even start on "end game" dungeon grinding - or relic yet as far as I know until I complete my story mode.

Why mix "raid" content with 4man too... that's just stupid design also. Especially if there's really a low incentive to queue up to help others finish.

OK, surprised it's taking that long, but I guess most people prefer going premade into those 8 man dungeons by now, usually with single tank/healer. But people do get a benefit from helping on the later ones, it gives tomes. I've helped people doing story runs 4-5 times on both the later 8 mans, if you can find a fully premade group then you won't be queuing at all. They do exist, other people need the clear the story too. try putting out a shout or two in Mor Dhona while you are queuing.

[Johnist]

The OP only has a Level 30 CNJ/WHM... How can he know what any of the 8-man content is considering the 1st 8-man required event is a Level 40 Guildhest and the dungeons aren't 8-man until 49/50 (Cape Westwind, Castrum Meridianum, Praetorium, Ifrit Hard Mode, Garuda Hard Mode, Titan Hard Mode, Binding Coil)...

I'm sorry, but to me 'raid content' means 3+ Full Parties (Crystal Tower, Odin, Behemoth) all of which are Level 50 content... there is no 'Gated Raid Content' that the OP has even encountered.

[AmonXF]

The OP only has a Level 30 CNJ/WHM... How can he know what any of the 8-man content is considering the 1st 8-man required event is a Level 40 Guildhest and the dungeons aren't 8-man until 49/50 (Cape Westwind, Castrum Meridianum, Praetorium, Ifrit Hard Mode, Garuda Hard Mode, Titan Hard Mode, Binding Coil)...

I'm sorry, but to me 'raid content' means 3+ Full Parties (Crystal Tower, Odin, Behemoth) all of which are Level 50 content... there is no 'Gated Raid Content' that the OP has even encountered.

I have no clue what's wrong with my profile - but that being said I have a 50 PLD and a 50 BLM... 50 ALC/50 CLN (I think that the last time I logged in to my PS3 version of the game I was level 30 - maybe I should log in to get this thing updated I guess)



Vs: "get a free company - friends - etc" a lot of people on Famfrit are very rude, immature, and getting groups via global channels is a massive pain. My complaint here about the content being set up this way is simple: they should have anticipated long ago that once the first and maybe 2nd wave of players made it through their story quest, there needs to be INCENTIVE for people to go back in and do it again - otherwise maybe allowing us to complete the story quests without needing the 8man content? I don't know - basically it's terrible design and expected from small minded developers back in the 90s. Come on now. We've already seen this design type fail - why use it again now 20 years later? Terrible choice.

The design here is that you want to have people constantly going back in to content that is meaningless to them - just for the lolz? Get real. This also adds tremendous strain to all FCs because people get stuck in a loophole constantly helping those below them in the quest chain - adds frustration to people who eventually just quit the FCs to go to pure "end game" FCs just to avoid having to do the CHORE of helping out those still working through it.

It's a vicious - near sighted circle. Such a flawed and terrible terrible design. Thank christ I just got beta accepted into a few games as well as a couple more coming out in a day here... something to do until the next MMO or SE gives their heads a shake and wakes up... NO significant patches or anything since release.