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    the difference between useful and useless feedback by LordArtemis

    so while i was visiting the SW:ToR forums, i found this amazing post made by LordArtemis about what is good feedback for devs and what isn't.


    i will post the actual post this thread, so you wont have to visit another page

    Quote Originally Posted by LordArtemis View Post
    I think he was actually right on the money. But clearly complaint posts for the sake of complaining is of no value, other than to identify that certain folks are upset.

    I am going to give examples of what I think is useful and useless feedback...note that that does not mean useless feedback should not be offered, as everyone has a right to speak their mind IMO.




    Useless praise


    Bioware, dont listen to the haters. Your doing a great job, they are just looking for attention. This is the greatest game ever, keep up the good work and ignore the loud mouthed minority that will never be happy.

    Useful praise

    I think that Bioware has instituted quite a few positive changes recently, and I think they have been well received overall. I think the open discussion with respect to the {blank} issue was the right way to go, and they addressed the issue immediately. Obviously this was a good move. Looking forward to more great changes in the future.


    Notice the first praise offers unqualified compliments, then turns to insulting those that post complaints as a way to promote the post....which in the end is next to useless IMO. The second comment however offers specific praise for a specific action or change, indicates what is positive about it, and then closes without a single dig against those that have an opposing opinion.



    Useless criticism

    Wht the %$&%$&$% Bioware. This game is such a piece of %^*&*^*&^. If the devs would just pull their heads out of their collective &*^&(&*(^&*^ they might actually do something right, but of course they don't care what we think. I have been complaining about this forever and not a single dev post. It is $#$#@#$. I'm out of here.

    Useful criticism

    Bioware, I believe there is a serious issue with [blank], and you have ignored the problem long enough IMO. You must be ignoring your playerbase, because based on some of the feedback in the forum and outside across the net this problem is serious and has broken [blank] essentially for certain players. I think if you continue to ignore this problem it will eventually hurt the health of the game. I for one would like to hear something from the devs about this issue....anything....even if it is to say there is no problem.

    Here is what I think needs to change.....


    The first post has no concrete complaint. Instead it is simply rage with no focus, and Bioware learns nothing from this. The second post, though harsh, at least gives an opinion on what they think is wrong, why it is bad and what should change.



    That, IMO, is the difference between useful and useless feedback on both sides of the fence.
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    Last edited by astrobear; 10-23-2013 at 01:07 AM.